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08-05-2004 12:41 PM
SalmoGairdneri
Photos please!

I'd love to see more pictures of these Neah bay chrome beauties from any of you that have been out there this year. We made trip #5 out there last weekend and had decent fishing in tough (swell & current) conditions. Hopefully it will die down a bit before I head out there again (11-14 Aug).

Some beautiful bait-busting by salmon out there last weekend. Some very annoying swells to bob around in as well.

Cheers,

-tony
07-31-2004 08:58 AM
Moonlight
Sweel maybe on way down!!!!!!!

According to the weather underground the swell off of Neah Bay is going to be dropping off next week in anticipation of our arrival for camping and fishing. Also the wind will be lighter and the Jet is going to back off a little which could make it less foggy. But then I am an optimist!
07-30-2004 12:35 PM
topwater warren,

it's just a cross between a clouser and a deceiver.

here's a link

http://store1.yimg.com/I/clouserflyfishing_1795_720330

juro: hope this link is okay... couldn't find a non-commercial site with a decent tie of this pattern.

mine are almost identical to the fly pictured.

as for messed up hands, i never start fishing without putting on latex gloves (i purchase mine at a pharmacy).

wish i had had video of yesterday morning. dark clouds, a bit of wind, 6-8' swells, hard ebb current and tons of birds working the water catching the herring the coho were driving up (not a bait ball... more scattered). an image now forever etched in my memory.

i hope to see the swells drop out soon. i'll probably be fishing further out during your next visit ( i hope it picks up out there during the next tidal sequence) but i'm sure i'll run into you and moonlight.

chris
07-30-2004 11:06 AM
NZ Trout Bum Chris

Great day on the salt. 50+ would have resulted in lots of bloody fingers. Last year at the end of an 8 day trip I had bandages on 7 of 10 fingers and thumbs.

I have seen you reference a "half and half" in the past but have no idea what you are tying. Could you post a quick discription? Thanks. W
07-30-2004 07:34 AM
Moonlight
4th -10th of August

That is when we will be at the Cape RV and fishing Neah Bay. The "chance at a King Salmon is much much higher in that time frame than in September. Granted the Coho's will be a bit smaller than in September but they are big enough already! Personally come September I probably will be in a different area fishing for Steelheads (more than likely)
07-29-2004 10:16 PM
Big K1 Juro,

Hooknose Clave sounds good to me.

Kevin
07-29-2004 10:01 PM
tbuehrens I'd love to but I will be back chasing stripers on your coast come september when my school starts again in maine.
-tom
07-29-2004 09:14 PM
juro Tom, Kevin, et. al -

Would you guys be interested in a group conclave event out there? Forum member bash, Leland would likely attend and we might get to meet Moonlight and topwater too. Could be a real good gathering of folks on some of the most incredible fishing the world has to offer.

HOOKNOSE CLAVE!
07-29-2004 09:03 PM
Big K1 Thank you everyone for the excellent advice.
You have shown what a great group of guys you are.
Now I just have to get off my ass and get out there
and use the info everyone provided.

Juro,
It would be great if we could hook up.
A little salt and a little skinny water would be fun.

Kevin
07-29-2004 08:58 PM
tbuehrens Hey everyone...
I am really keen on trying out the Neah bay fishery with my 17 foot boston whaler, but I would feel much more comfortable doing it for the first time if I could sort of team up with another boat because of the safety concerns...because of all the interest expressed on this site, I was wondering if anyone would be up for fishing with me as a team so we could both learn the water. anyone interested?
-Tom
(next few weeks)
07-29-2004 06:32 PM
topwater i agree with warren. you're better off drifting around casting flies covering water than trolling. you'll learn more and actually be fly fishing. learning the water types is key, and success trolling in an area doesn't always translate into success fly fishing.

tie up some chartreuse and white flashtail clousers and half and halfs. grab a 300-350 grain line (i prefer the rio striper lines) and go at it. using the right lines and using a water load to cast them makes casting clousers easy and safe. to me, shooting head lines are the only way to fish out at neah bay. you'll save time and energy over full length lines (and they are safer to cast in the wind imo).

as for time of day, look at a current book. maximum ebbs and floods will usually translate into the best fishing for me. hard currents also make light levels less important when it comes to the depth the fish will be feeding. for me, the topwater fishing is less about low light, but more about finding the right current, bait, or situation to fish them.

unfortunetely for small boats, and as warren mentioned it's been lumpy lately,
the best fishing is indeed around the currents... and currents (especially ebbs) make rough water rougher. be cautious on an ebb, especially near the entrance. floods offer some of the best fishing, and the current flowing in usually flattens the water.

but the fishing has been top notch. the fish are bigger than i've ever seen this early (and not just a few, but the average is high). today we landed 52 coho.

chris
07-29-2004 02:31 PM
NZ Trout Bum Moonlight - Look forward to camping with you.

t - Good advise to Kevin on equiptment. Only thing I disagree on is trolling. I believe that to be most effictive trolling should be done at a slow speed and this does not cover much water. I prefer to test fish rips quickly and move to the next one, look for wording birds, look for large numbers of resting birds, look for jumping fish or, as a last resort, look for the gear fleet. Trolling wasted too much time and was boaring beyond belief (I did plenty of it).

Tip of the week. Watch your bubble trail off your motor. Make your first cast behind the boat when you stop. Cohos love to follow and a short cast doesn't take much time.

Tight lines. W
07-29-2004 02:20 PM
juro Kevin -

I just saw your inquiry but couldn't have said it better than Tony did.

I agree completely that if you had to have only one line it would be a hi-density sinking head line that matches your rod. If you do have the luxury, it's nice to have a floating line rod along since the fish are very surface oriented the first hour or two and later in the evening, sometimes all day but most days it's a dawn/dusk thing. The floater keeps the fly skipping, lifts easy and is a pleasure to cast.

Hope we can hook up this fall!
07-29-2004 01:30 PM
SalmoGairdneri
Quote:
Originally Posted by Big K1
The last thing I need is another boat!
What size are the boats for rent in Seiku and what kind of prices?

Thanks again guys for your help and words of encouragement.

Kevin
Prices are pretty reasonable. Also, you can rent a similar boat at Neah bay from the "Big Salmon Resort".

Here is a link to all of the boat rental services at Sekiu. I'd rent from Van Riper's. They list the Coho resort for kicker boats, but they sold all their rental boats in 2001.

http://www.sekiu.com/recreationservices.htm

-t
07-29-2004 01:23 PM
Moonlight
Email is down!

Trout Bum, Small Korky and I have gotten a trailer spot for the 4th through the 10 at the Cape. (whats with email anpther big bad virus no doubt.) We fished at Freshwater this dawn and saw very few taken, havent been there since late 70's. Looks like somebody made a fortune in real estate development since then!!!!!!!!!
Oh yeah NFT for us saw a couple crusing the kelp under my rod though.
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