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Striper
02-14-2003, 11:33 PM
Well I just stopped laughing from reading the UFT thread and thought I would post something about golf. someone had said in that thread how many golfers we had here in our midst, well I am one of em'. John and Doogue, I would love to get together sometime and play, I have been smacking around the little rock for quite awhile now and aside from fishing golf is all I do. John I would be most greatful if you could allow me to accompany you at some point to the Winchester CC to play. I will leave the Super Soakers at home as I am no match for a bonafide Marquis. Seriously I would love to play a little golf with you fine gentleman, I think it would be an awesome day and I am sure we would have a rousing good time. If not Winchester how about Pine Valley, I here that place is unbelieveable as well. You have some real beautiful courses up your way and I for one would jump at the chance to come and play. I was over to the indoor golf range down here a couple of days ago and I was hitting the ball pretty good, I can't wait till spring. The Masters always gets me revved up to play and I have been glued to the tube lately watching the West Coast swing, I can't wait till Ernie and Tiger are both in the same field this year, I think Tigers got an ass wuppen comin' his way. Ernie is playing unconcious and he is hitting the ball a mile, watch out Tiger there is a new sheriff in town. John I did not get that job I interviewed for a couple of weeks ago. I have had several interviews lately but have not gotten any further response, I am supposed to go back for another interview with a company in Greenwich but have not gotten the new appointment yet. I interviewed for Golf Shop Manager at Sports Authority the other day and that went very well, they are changing their whole golf operation and renovating to make the golf dept. look like a professional green grass shop. They are going to carry many name brand clubs to include Callaway, Nike, Taylor Made, so they should be able to compete on a more level field now. With their buying power I would expect to see them competing very well in the market down here. We will see and I think I would enjoy working that job as I love golf almost as much as fishing. Well sorry for the long winded non-fishing post but it is the middle of winter and with the nasties at full strength I figured I could get away with a non-fishing thread. Calling all golfers please way in on this thread!!!!!


Tightlines and Tee It high.....Let it Fly!!!!

Mike M.

MarkDoogue
02-15-2003, 12:03 AM
Well, I've been fly fishing for about 4 years now.

As for golf, I started seriously swinging a club roughly 30 years ago. I took my entire college career off from golf(pool/billiards took over for those four years) and I truly regret it.

Now I play primarily for work with 5 - 10 weekend outings thrown in throughout the season. Work has allowed me to expand my horizons across The Pond to places like Lahinch, Ballybunion, and St. Andrews. I went to the Masters in 2001(again, on work's dime), but, I've yet to find my ticket to actually play Augusta, YET!!!

I've played 54 holes in a day and I find 36 holes easy if I'm striking the ball purely. Against friends I've played entire rounds with only a 9-iron to make things fair. Don't get me wrong, I'm no Tiger Woods and I'm certainly not a scratch golfer, my friends are fairly terrible. I could care less how well or how poorly someone plays. I just like to play golf.

ANYTIME someone wants to play golf I'll take you up on it.

This year should be interesting because I just picked up an entire set of new clubs, I mean woods, irons, soup to nuts. I shipped the clubs I've used for the past 7 years down to Virginia(in-laws house) because travel with my son has become a massive undertaking. Flying with clubs is not an option. I need to get properly fitted and figure out club distances all over again. It'll be good for my handicap.........

Striper, any time you want to play just let me know and I'll try to work it out.

striblue
02-15-2003, 12:14 AM
I wish you the best of luck on that job search... and I will commit to having you to WCC for a day... I think I could get 2 foursomes onto WCC...with another member that would be 6 forum members...I could get another member and that would be 9....There was a time about 10 years ago when WCC was in the top 100 in the country... just behind 3 other Mass courses-- TCC, Salem and Kittansett. Played Pine Valley 4 years ago... Brutal...but bueatiful... Because we have reciprocal rights with certain clubs around the country I remember playing Congressional a number of times by myself on a number of Washington business trips... stayed an extra day and took a cab to the club to play and then to the airport... Remember Olympic as well.. But I think the toughest courses I ever played besides Pine valley were Winged Foot and Seminole.... Very lucky to have gotten to those two Gems especially with all the history there. Seminole was Ben Hogan's favorite course. I will make sure to see if I can set something up in April for a forum Golf tournament.

Striper
02-15-2003, 12:17 AM
Mark,
Sounds good my friend would love to play sometime with you. I started playing back around 84' or so and immediately fell in love with the game, something about the integrity aspect of the game and the fact that you are only as good as your next shot keeps me coming back. The game came to me pretty naturally and I have alot of people at the facility where I practice always asking for advice/lessons. I am no Tiger Woods either but I must be doing something right or else they would leave me alone. I have not had the good fortune like you to play all over the world but have had the opportunity to play some very nice course across the US, I lived in California for 9 years and they have alot of courses. Back then it cost considerably less to play than it does now, and I got some real sticker shock when I came back to the east coast and went to play. Used to cost me 15-18 bucks to play a very nice muni course in Sacremento where the seniors used to warm up for the Senior Gold Rush Tournament. That was my home course and it was always in great shape even though it got hammered by alot of rounds of golf. Played some down in the LA area but I didn't like LA would never live there. I am playing a set of Hogan blades that I got last year, I had a set when I came back from CA. but sold them and regreted it until I found another set on E-Bay for $130 bucks, I bought them and have been a happy camper ever since. I got a Cleveland Launcher last year and it is by far the best driver I have ever owned, it may be with me forever as I don't change clubs often. Have an original Phoenix Ping Anser that was given to me back in CA. when the guy I was playing with was going to throw it in the garbage after a poor putting round, have had it ever since can't seem to find a new one that feels as good as this one. Anyway we will have to make plans to get together when the weather breaks and tee it up, should be alot of fun and you don't have to worry about me hacking it around:):)

Tightlines,
Mike M.

MarkDoogue
02-15-2003, 12:20 AM
You're the best John, thanks.

All this talk of golf has inspired me to change my avatar. It's me standing in Hell Bunker at St. Andrews. I was lucky enough to avoid it during play but my caddie offered to take my picture in it anyway. I'm glad I did.

Striper
02-15-2003, 12:23 AM
John,
Golf tourney sounds like a plan to me. I can also provide Hole In One prizes and also we could have a putting contest as well, short money as I am in the process of signing on with a company that does HIO Insurance as a Rep. This is something I used to do for another company, but that company was shall we say not exactly on the up and up, I found out and immediately cut all ties with him. This new company has Legitimate insurance company backing and all clients receieve a certificate of coverage when they sign a contract. I would be willing to front the cost of the insurance as it would make for alot of fun that day, I would not be eligible but everyone else would be. The HIO coverage covers all HIO's and we also provide prizes for all of the par 3 holes. Let me know when you start to get things going and if we have enough interest I will put the contest thing together.

Tightlines,
Mike M.

MarkDoogue
02-15-2003, 12:26 AM
Striper, I picked up Hogan Apex Edge Pro's as my new set. I hope I'm as happy with my Hogan's as you are with yours.

Striper
02-15-2003, 12:27 AM
Mark,
Who is better than you???? Man I am envious, you have been blessed by the golfing gods for sure. Some day maybe I too will get over the pond and play some the fabled courses of Britain and Scotland. I will have to be content to play my little local Orange Hills and Great River (Fazio) courses until then.

Mike M.

Striper
02-15-2003, 12:31 AM
Mark,
Great clubs you will learn to love those sticks. Make sure you have the lofts and lies checked before you play regularly with them, Hogans have a tendency to be somewhat off in their lofts and lies "out of the box" All of mine when I got the first set were 1-2 degs. off, not a big deal and they can be adjusted easily as they are soft forged clubs, although I am sure you already know that. Now you've done it you got me talking golf, I won't shut up now until springtime and teeing it up. Thanks..................:)

Tightlines,
Mike M.

Striper
02-15-2003, 12:35 AM
Mark,
I have had my eye on those new Titliest 690 MB Blades, those are some sweet sticks. May be able to swing a set of those real soon. Will probably stick with my Hogans though, I just love these sticks and I guarantee I will never get rid of them again even if I do get another set.

Tightlines,
Mike Mayo

MarkDoogue
02-15-2003, 12:35 AM
By the way, I'm the one who's envious.

If I had a pic of me with a fish like yours I'd have IT as my avatar.

Striper
02-15-2003, 12:37 AM
Mark,
I would trade any of the fish I have caught for just one round on one of the courses you have been so lucky to play. See me later this season and we will fix the avatar problem you seem to have:):):) The boat is gassed and ready for the coming season and I would be more than happy to bring you out for an avatar creating trip.

Tightlines,
Mike Mayo

craig
02-15-2003, 08:50 AM
I used to play alot of golf before I got into fly fishing. I was a member of the gross division in BAGS (Boston Amateur Golf Society). I use to play in the Mass. Golf Assocation tournaments around the state. Now let me state also that I have not played much in the last 3/4 years, so I know longer know where my shots are going to go, even back then sometimes I didn't lol. I would love to be included in any forum golf get together. Please keep me in mind.

striblue
02-15-2003, 09:03 AM
Well..I love Golf...but I still love the walk down the beach and the perfect cast and the anticipation of the that "tug". The scales tip to flyfishing for me. There is a large group of guys from Winchester who go to Bermuda each year and play a tournament at Mid Ocean Club and live at the club house accommodations... I have been invited each year...but I think I would have a hard time just playing golf the whole time.. I would want to set out on the water for a day or two.. split the time..but that would not be in the cards...so I don't go.

MarkDoogue
02-15-2003, 11:49 AM
I don't blame you John.

Sometimes golf trips are more about the 19th hole, too. I play golf because it's challenging and relaxing all at the same time. I don't do it as a warm up for an afternoon of imbibing.

Then again, most guys I know that spin fish from a boat use that time to kick back with some beer as well.

I guess I'm totally misunderstood by two different groups. I won't drink when I golf or fish.

pmflyfisher
02-15-2003, 11:52 AM
Who had to bring up GOLF, I'm having enough trouble thinking about that new lite spey rod, and now some one throws in another passion of mine !:confused: :confused:

I just came back from mailing some fly swap flies stopped in the local sporting goods store, and had to close my eyes as I walked through the golf section, other wise the tempation of a new club may overcome me.

Time to buy another bottle of Merlot for these weekend, tie more flies, and watch Tiger Woods in the Buick Open.

PM Out

Striper
02-16-2003, 12:17 PM
Mark,
I too do not drink much anymore, I don't drink at all when I fish or golf. If somebody wants to do that than that is their right but I choose to keep all of my senses intact while enjoying my passion for Fishing and Golf. I would be hard pressed to pick one over the other, I think they are both tied for my favorite things to do when not working. I believe they are very similar pursuits, the challenge of catching a fish and the challenge of finding the "Zone" in golf from round to round are very similar. In both you can never know it all, and in both activities you can play like a pro one day and be like a rank beginner the next. I Think this is why I love these two amazing sports. I work so that I can fish and golf.................that's it in a nutshell!!! John you should accompany your friend down to the Mid Ocean Club and do both, you could fish the early morning than tee it up later on, after leaving the 18th you could go right back out and catch the afternoon tide and fish till dinner, what could be better than that???? You get to do both things that you love to do, just think a Hole In One and a Grand Slam in the same day, you would be hard pressed to surpass that accomplishment in a single lifetime.
Sitting hear wondering about this HUGE snow storm that is baring down upon us really is depressing, had plans to finally start the kitchen wall replacing tomorrow after being postponed 3 times before, looks like it is going to have to wait even longer now. I have to work on Tuesday for a day so wednesday is going to be the earliest that we can get to the walls now. This is like the winter that would never end........................Enough already!!!!

Tightlines,
Mike M.

DFix
02-16-2003, 07:58 PM
"What ball are you playing?"

"Titleist"

I'm always looking for a game :smokin:

need caddie... :rolleyes:

Slinger
02-16-2003, 09:24 PM
I love golf, it keeps the streams empty! Seriously, when I was younger I used to play, was even on my high school team and played in leagues at my first job. One season I spent so much time golfing that I didn`t fish at all, on reflecting on my lost opportunities, I sold the clubs! Never regreted the choice.
Slinger

jfbasser
02-16-2003, 09:43 PM
Never bought any clubs. Never regreted the choice.

doogue
02-17-2003, 09:43 AM
Originally posted by MarkDoogue
As for golf, I started seriously swinging a club roughly 30 years ago.

Hmmm. I know that I have seen pictures of you swinging a golf club while in diapers. I guess that means that you were seriously swinging the club at age 2.

After reading this thread I would think that my 32 year old brother is 40!

I regret not getting into golf when I was younger. There is no time like the present to get started but I wish that I had started years ago.

The problem that I faced in getting into golf was the course in Braintree - where Mark and I grew up. I think it is the 5th hole or so that has a nice stream crossing the fairway. That stream pours out into some primo bass water. I have spent more time fishing these waters (reservoir waters in Braintree and Randolph) than any other water in the world. Hell, I even went snorkeling in some of the most productive spots so that I knew where the structure was. I was a nut. I used to fish the area for largemouth and smallies almost every day when I was in high school (in the summers sometimes 2x in a day).

Whenever I walked the course at Braintree and my eyes fell upon the water I found that I would rather be fishing than golfing.

Then again, my brother took up fishing so that he could spend more time with my Dad and I. I guess that I should head off to the driving range as soon as the snow clears out.:D

The golf course in Braintree was a fishing haunt for the Doogue clan many years ago too. I have very vivid memories of my Dad spraying bug spray on his hands and then gently rubbing his scented hands over my face as we stood on the legal side of the fence at the golf course. Then he would hoist me up and pass me over the top of the fence - we were outlaws! He seemed like a giant to me at the time. Then he would hop over and we would fish until dark. Those are good memories and I still cannot put on some Cutter without thinking about Dad. I should take him back to the course this summer so that we can see just how high that fence is. It seemed like a 10 footer to me.

Just riding out the snow...

-Mike

pmflyfisher
02-17-2003, 10:02 AM
Its a hard choice between golf and fly fishing, last year I did more fly fishing than golf for the first time in at least 5 years. 2003 strategy is to be determined. I try to stay away from the Golf Smith and Golf Galaxy stores which are 5 minutes from my office, but two weeks ago I broke down and went to see the new equipment.:( :(

PM Out

striblue
02-17-2003, 10:10 AM
I was going to comment on the combination of Golf and Fishing. I have friends in Chatham that are members of Eastward Ho! C. C. Each year they also open the course for Chatham residents twice a year... I was going to join years ago but too expensive... $15,000 initiation and 20 year wait to get golf.. I could have got sponsored and got on the list about 10 years ago for $500... but I did not...my point is that the course runs all along Pleasant Bay. 3 years ago I am playing there and early one morning I must have seen over 100 stripers moving slowing along the shore lines to two hole... I had to stop and watch to the dismay of my foresome. About a month later I smuggle a three peice fly rod in my bag and convince one of the member to play,just the two of us on an uncrowded day of which there are many there. Did not catch anything but fished for about a hour total as I stoped to to hit balls. The shore line is perfect for fishing all along that tiny cape that shoots out into pleasant bay...But access is only though the course...you can see it on a map.. the club is down Fox Hill road... It is the only course I can think off that is along the water on the cape except for Hyannisport and High Light in Truro. NOw that I think about it ,It is easier there to get a small private Golf tounament there than Winchester... I will contact my buddies and see if I can get something set up there maybe if we have a spring clave on the Cape... A member does not have to be with a member in a forsesome... we would have to pay geenfees.. but I know the pro there and many members... my best man at my wedding is a long standing member and a number of highschool classmates are as well.. I fugure we could have at least 6 foresomes and maybe more if we pick a week day... Should I ? ( I will also set something at WCC.. the Cape thing would not be a substitite only it would only be two foresomes at WCC ..maximum of 6 guests in two Foresomes..the Ho! time would include everyone who wants to play probably)

Striper
02-17-2003, 12:00 PM
John,
Count me in my friend, doesn't matter which course to me, I would just enjoy playing golf with some of the members here on the board. I have never been one of those guy's who has tp play all of the greatest courses around. I have enjoyed playing many a muni course that are just as challenging as any high dollar course that I have played. The only difference being that you usually have problems on the muni's with pace of play, I hate having to endure a 5-6 hour round of golf. I never play well when it is slow and in my opinion golf should not take 5-6 hours to play. I used to play with the mens club members in CA. when I lived there, I was not a member but I knew all of the old guy's that played every weekend, I would show up at 5:45-6:00 am. and hookup with one of the groups and play. The only stipulation when I played with these guy's was I had to keep up, I am not a slow player by any means but these guy's give a whole new meaning to fast play. On many Saturday mornings we would play in no more than 3 hours, the fastest was a 2:45 round and we were flying around the course. Shot my best round ever that day, 74. I think the faster you play the less time you have to let negative thoughts seep into your thought process and it all becomes automatic. I miss those days, the old farts would always be dogging me to speed up and I was playing real fast. Lot's of fun and a great bunch of guy's. Always saw this big buck and his harem in the early mornings crossing the first fairway on his way back to the river, he would trot up to this 6 ft. cyclone fence and without blinking an eye would hurdle the fence it was truly a sight to see. Let me know when you get the plans better situated so that I can make some plans to be there.

Tightlines,
Mike Mayo

striblue
02-17-2003, 12:29 PM
Yes Mike..That's one of the reasons I joined a private Club... 4 to 6 hours to play,,not to mention the wait would ruin it for me... and tick of my family... I still play my 18 holes after work in the summer... by myself usually and can get it in ..sometimes in 2 hours..well before dark.. sometimes I will play two balls and actually get 36 holes in in about 3 hours... start at 6 pm and end by dark in mid summer. Keep two scores for each ball....

BigDave
02-18-2003, 10:35 AM
I play too - less and less since picking up the SWFF thing though :D

How do you guys usually score? Be honest - let's say when you're in midseason form? Just curious...I'm a low to mid 90's guy with the occasional good round. Play about 15 rounds a year.

I love golf but the MA courses are totally overpriced and crowded - even if you're willing to drive to stowe/butternut area (although there's a good bass fishing hole nearby.....).

pmflyfisher
02-18-2003, 10:51 AM
90s, move to chicago we are the third rated area in the U.S. for public courses, no problem to get on at a reasonable price, U.S. Open is here at Olympia Fields in June 2003. Good GL salmon and steelhead fishing within an hour of Chicago.

Pm Out

MarkDoogue
02-18-2003, 04:44 PM
I'm high 70's to low 80's.

Pace of play is king for me. You could take 120 whacks to get around the course and I could care less if you have a decent pace to your game.

striblue
02-18-2003, 04:47 PM
I vacilate between a 12 and 15 handicap... on my home course.

Striper
02-18-2003, 06:31 PM
Used to be a low single digit handicapper, that was when I was playing in CA. 4-5 times a week. Now I am lucky if I get out 1 time a week. But still able to shoot around 80 most of the time. I am shooting for mid- 70's scores this year, if I am lucky I will get out more often than the past couple of years. I don't do alot of fishing in the middle of the season so this leaves time for golf. My fishing happens early spring and then picks up again around the end of August till the cold arrives.

Tightlines,
Mike M.

MarkDoogue
02-18-2003, 07:07 PM
Vacillate.......great word.:)

DFix
02-19-2003, 01:20 PM
Thank You, John, for your kind and thoughtful suggestion to meister an Eastward Ho outing. As I indicated my interest regarding a tour of WCC, I now throw in to the Eastward Ho, 2003 FCC Open.

Respectfully,

Col. Winston B. Broomhandle Dunlop-MacGregor; DC, BSA, UFT, JFFT, USCG, USA :D