12-27-2002, 09:23 PM
Ok..this is the sand eel..I am still working on getting one that will swim down on the sand..usually we put the clouser dumbells on..but I don't want to do that..maybe a metal cone will work..I need the hook riding up but will not us the clouser eye as that goes against what I am trying to do.....still more tests...but this one is tyed just as the regular Feather brain but with long hackles like short flat wing hackles.( Maybe it's time to redesign the strandard Couser dumbell, or figure a way to bury it inside the head..yes..I will try that)
12-28-2002, 12:15 AM
John, if I get only one thing from spending two days at the show, I have to see how this is tied. Every new edition looks better and better. I believe you`ve come up with a hot new tie. I always say that there`s not much new you can do to a hook but you keep making me eat my words!
12-28-2002, 08:52 AM
Looks quite like those slimy sand eels we used to catch as kids in the Hudson River and Jersey shore jetties on sand and blood worms.
Anybody got a sand or blood worm imitation ?
Good job though it looks good.
Try a conehead.
12-28-2002, 09:15 AM
Eagle Claw LC413 might do the trick.
12-28-2002, 10:15 AM
John, take a look at:
The tier has achieved basically what you are going for in the head...notice how he ties the material OVER the cone to get the sand lance head shape. Clever. Not sure if/how the technique could be applied with feathers instead of FisHair, but worth a shot.
Also, your fly looks like it may be a tad bulky for a sand lance imitation, but hard to tell from the pic.
At any rate, please figure this out, cause I REALLY want a better sand eel fly for the flats! I am not happy with the traditional imitations, especially the ones that are essentially modified clousers with dumbell eyes. I want something that will get down to the sand fast and that has very natural movement--perhaps a coneheaded flatwing? But I also want that distinctive sand lance head shape, which is hard to achieve.
12-28-2002, 12:22 PM
Thanks Guys for your comments ... it's what I am looking for...Josh... the bulk will be thinned out by putting in a thinner bulk of Bucktail and not using the small spreader... I will try that and can compare.... I am still a little concerned about cones.. I don't want a jig fly but one that will swim like the clouser sand eels... along the bottom on long strips... and keeping the hook up without rolling... I have some thoughts on doing my own clouser eyes so I can stay with the feather brain concept... The Feather brain eel...swimming along the bottom with those big eyes and natural head may be just the thing for reluctant stripers. I have some small feather brain surf candies which I have done for the swap and will try the concept on a larger eel. I will figure it out
12-29-2002, 12:09 PM
I continue to be amazed by your creativity!
Are you testing these creations in the water yet? Maybe a fish tank test or a tub test? Or put on the old neoprenes and hit the flats with observers?
Please keep up the good work. You certainly inspire a lot of us to hit the vise!