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: Empty Oceans, Empty Nets

11-27-2002, 08:48 AM
Anyone else have a chance to check out this PBS program last night? Fascinating insight into commercial fisheries worldwide and an in-depth look at the decline in atlantic game/billfish populations.

The two segments I found most interesting concerned George's Bank and the restoration of Pacific Salmon and Halibut populations along the Alaskan coastline. Hard evidence that sustainable fisheries can be acheived with proper management practices.

Had no idea that the preferred method for taking 300# swordfish off of George's was harpooning only 75 years ago. Imagine casting a banger to one of those big boys? Unfortunately the populations are now in such disrepair that the average size of a long-lined sword has fallen from 270# to 90# in just 30 years.

Check it out if you get a chance. Really interesting stuff.

Plus lots of footage of a white marlin working a bait ball which is always a plus :devil:


11-29-2002, 07:21 AM
Dave -

Any idea what is was called? I would like to purchase the videotape, which gives them $ to keep doing them and gives me a good tape for my archive.


11-29-2002, 08:15 AM
Yup I saw it. Very amazing expose. 2 controversial points it made were:

1. The fisheries management boards are populated by folks with commercial interests. Big bias there. They evan gave examples of members of the ASFMC who own comm boats etc.

2. Fishing Free zones not only help themselves but, adjacent areas where fishing is allowed prosper as well.

Bottom line- overfishing continues.

11-29-2002, 10:40 AM
dOh! Just discovered that the post title IS the name! :p

I was searching on pbs.org and striking out, finally went to WGBH (local PBS affiliate) and found it right away. I guess I should have figured out it due to the local impact.

Only thing is, I was unable to determine air times even after registering and requesting it be added to my personalized schedule, and it does not appear in the tapes for purchase areas of their site.

Looks like it's time for the old standby... telephone! I will post in case anyone else is interested.


11-29-2002, 11:09 AM
Did a little searching on this and found this link Empty Oceans (http://www.pbs.org/emptyoceans/film/index.html)
Check out the when is it on link on this page. It says not airing this month on any of our local stations but I am sure it will be on again this winter at some point.

Mike M.

Found the purchase link here Buy Video (http://www.shop.pbs.org/cust/cdeploy?ecaction=ecproditemview&ecpid=10505&ecpiid=10185&eccookie=YnQ%2F3Pxlsx7Qi0L2P5fsAcXLfa8IbpNTNWvgl3q PLcdCe9OEhDtmK3wh%2B6Ztmyw5LyyH0LGSixexp1tQS8xgxSE 7deLOS%2FG%2FSiPNWtN5e78jcVL8fSiA3TxjL38bfpJkkcCNr g22wxdR75om2y3NsuB7URuVZvDsqqZRw%2FLH4qL7InDgrAMdn nFA4h4RnTpDhxSuYMkvFMIHCyf6Yfcr9Q%3D%3D&template=shoppbs/products/ecproditemview.en.html)
Looks like it is backordered for now keep checking back and I am sure you will be able to purchase it soon. They always need the money!!!

11-29-2002, 01:17 PM
Mike, thanks for the links and I will definitely be picking up this tape for the archive.

However I just tried to buy but got a server error and had to call the cust support line. If anyone is going to purchase it online I would wait until mid-week when everyone's back from their turkey day hiatus. The video is back-ordered anyway for up to 4 weeks so it doesn't really matter when you order it.

Wish I caught it on the tube, it looks like the product of a serious research effort spanning many cultures around the globe although there was a segment on the New England fishery it was far from a local documentary.

12-02-2002, 07:56 AM
I've had some difficulty navigating their site as well. Let me know how it works out Juro - the video might make it on to my christmas list.

In case anyone is interested in a very different set of videos about the underwater world, check out BBC's Blue Planet. The DVD set is now available and the camera work is unbeleivable. This is more of a souped-up nature video than a documentary regarding the health of our oceans.