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: Night Lights


Moron_Saxatilis
10-08-2002, 07:42 PM
Any recommendations on lights. Thinking about getting the $30+ LED light that runs a long time on AAA's. There are so many lights out there... I would like a strong, lightweight light I could affix to the bill of a baseball cap. This would make it comfortable and almost unlosable.

jfbasser
10-08-2002, 08:12 PM
Met a guy fishing with one of those recently. He loved it.

Penguin
10-08-2002, 08:49 PM
EMS (EasterMountainSports) sells a really nice 4LCD /3AAA headlight model with a sealed switch...ILIKEITALOT!

juro
10-08-2002, 09:42 PM
Club day coming up... Friday 26th, Sat 27th - 20% off. Wear your Forum hats!

Smcdermott
10-08-2002, 11:07 PM
I have a small one that attaches to the bill of a hat. Got it from Harry Koons at Nauset. I can't remember who makes it but I think it was only about $20. Not going to light up the night but is great for tying on a new fly or getting that pesty knot out of your line. It only uses a small watch battery so it is very light weight.

Sean

Nick
10-09-2002, 07:10 AM
I'll second Penguin's reply of this one
http://store4.yimg.com/I/skishop_1708_9901079

EMS didn't have it on their web page anymore...looks like they've got the newer, lighter version. The above lamp rocks though...bright white light for up close working.

Nick

Mattb
10-09-2002, 07:56 AM
I have a petzl zipka and love it. I think it's the smallest headlamp out there.

http://www.tripleaughtdesign.com/images/zipka.gif

One nice feature of the petzl LEDs is that you can get colored lenses for them(I think EMS carries them). I have a red lense in mine to save my night vision.

DennisS
10-09-2002, 08:16 AM
Walmart has a new sportman's headlamp made by Ray-O-Vac that switches between LED white, LED red and a conventional blub for a flood light setting. It is fairly small, there is no need to change lenses and it retails for about $13.00. They advertise 20+ hours on the battery for LED settings, and 2+ hours for the flood setting. I have not bought it yet, but for $13.00, it's worth a shot....

striblue
10-09-2002, 09:37 AM
I have the same one as Penguin and Nick..great light and throws a wide beam...so you can see where your walking...long life

jared
10-09-2002, 10:08 AM
Juro --

How cool is that....have you gotten the "ping ems & walmart for
sponsorship" emails yet??!!??

:devil:

As far as lights go, I go with a small 1 AAA version made by peli*** (has a red lens so night vision is not impacted, hang the light around my neck, although it has a clip so I suppose one could attach it to a hat, but not sure why you'd want to -- isn't that what teeth are for?!?! :))...also have a regular headlamp (2 AA I think) made by an undisclosed (read non-sponsor type) company. Which I use for either spotting bait or if I really need to see.

But for me, night fishing is only ever about the sounds/sights/smell of bass, so the light is used for fly changes and perhaps signal flashes to a fishing buddy if I've gone with (hey Shane, are we on for this weekend??)

--j

fishboyicu812
10-09-2002, 11:14 AM
I recently began using the Tikka-Lamp by Petzyl. It has performed flawlessly so far. Although not the brightest, it easily directs the light to where it is needed the most and has proved to be more than adequate.(Besides I really do not want to be lit up like a christmas tree while walking/working on the stream or beach.) The model that I have is light weight and has an elastic band that can either be worn around the head or neck. I believe that colored lenses are available.....Sorry for sounding like a
J. Peterman catlaog....my 2 cents.

juro
10-09-2002, 11:38 AM
Originally posted by jared
Juro --

How cool is that....have you gotten the "ping ems & walmart for
sponsorship" emails yet??!!??

:devil:
--j

As our newly appointed business mgr, I have full confidence that you can see this one through!

:devil: :devil:

Sad truth is that we are losing sponsors due to lack of focus. :(

signed, chief cook and bottle washer

Lefty
10-09-2002, 11:54 AM
I hate night fishin. Nevertheless I got a Pelican from REI. Too heavy on a baseball hat, avoid them.
This passed weekend I loaned mine to my son on a camping trip. I handed it over to him with a "Now be careful this is my special night fishing light. Well...he broke it good. Showed up with a big sad lip and shaky voice "Dad...I got something to tell you". We had a good laugh over it and he promised to be more careful. So I got a new one yesterday for my B-day. Weird.

Lefty

jared
10-09-2002, 01:30 PM
I've found "headlamps" far more effective if I wear them around
my neck....one can still direct it where necessary with your hand, and you're less apt to annoy other fishers/spook fish/etc.

Was fishing a salt pond a few years ago...black, still night, fish were crashing single spearing. Not where people "generally" fish it, but in a side backwater....a troop of headlights came marching along (never bothered to stop/look/listen *IF* they had , there's no way they would have missed the slurps, splashes and the occasional singing of my reel). Instead they all marched along, headlamps ablaze lined themself up in the "channel" and proceeded to fish like automatons....

Nothing against headlamps mind you, but these guys were too funny. A little observation (especially at night) can go a LONG way.....

-j

(hey Juro, I barely have time for my current commitments, but thankfully my term is nearly up, and despite the BOD's wishes, I'm not about to bring up a vote for a change in the UFT by-laws to allow a president to serve >1 consecutive term.....;) )

(Lefty, how can anyone hate night fishing?? :confused: It is AWESOME!?!?!)

DFix
10-10-2002, 03:07 PM
I have the Black Diamond mentioned, works marvelously, and a Princeton Tec. I like both. As I don't ski (or fish, according to some people) another use for my headlamps is night assaults on snowdrifts, snowshoe treks, etc.

By the way, brethren, do not forget a green lens offers the best night vision capability; though red lenses do not disturb the rods and cones almost at all, a green lens won't mess you up too badly.

Nick
10-10-2002, 03:11 PM
Mine gets used for Grilling from now until spring. You should see the looks on my friends when I head out with the steak, knife, tongs, lighter, and the headlamp :eyecrazy:

Hot tip from the Fixmaster:


Black Diamond Moonlight (http://www.campmor.com/webapp/commerce/command/ProductDisplay?prmenbr=226&prrfnbr=8291251)

One more plug...I have yet to change the batteries in the year that I've had it.

Mattb
10-10-2002, 04:25 PM
DFix, I always thought that red was the best light for preserving night vision?

I just did a quick google search and came up with this http://www.aoanet.org/clincare/aviation-night.asp

It seems to say that red light is the only way to go for preserving night vision, but that blue-green light will appear brightest at night. It's a pretty interesting read in general; it's geared towards flying at night, but a lot of the material applies to doing anything in the dark.


-Matt

DFix
10-10-2002, 04:57 PM
Matt, it seems there are slightly differing theories in this.

(Speaking strictly from personal experience) Yes, I completely agree red does no damage, as red is used exclusively in shipboard spaces such as CIC, bridge, etc., but a green-blue fades or washes out in a certain distance, and isn't completely obtrusive to your task of tending your line or completely capable of spooking fish like a white headlight. Remember, you're using the green as an aid, shining away from you, on your hat or around your neck or whatever, you're not looking directly into the light as suggested in the article. When reading maps and coordinates on topographic maps, etc., at night, both red and blue-green lenses will wash out their color matches. When I look at running lights in different circumstances I see the red more than the green, unbtil it's pitch black, then I think I see both equally well. I didn't use any colored lenses in flashlights overseas unless I had completely obscured myself and eliminated any risk of detection. I guess it's just experience which suggests I can use either with reasonable results; probably in the '...mileage may vary' category.

Mattb
10-11-2002, 08:26 AM
Dfix, thanks for the reply. I guess I'll have to try the green lense for my zipka and see how it works out.

-Matt

DFix
10-11-2002, 03:30 PM
Matt, I probably should have thrown this in the answer above. Regardless of whether my eyesight is headed for the S&%#chute now or not, I have now and always had very good night vision, allowing me to catch things others might not have, etc. Some members know what I mean. Think about an instrument panel this way: the reds and oranges on your instrument panel give you instant reference because they're color over or on a background for contrast. They instantly 'burn' an image into your eye. That can't be done as easily with blue or blue-green as they demand more focus.

If you use your green cover, you're turning away from the water anyway, looking down on the knot or fly, and can see the mono edges as you work them. If you happen to whip your light back around and onto the water, the green is way less obtrusive and vague a few feet out - it doesn't 'shoot' if you can see what I mean.

To get even MORE long-winded: If I use a blue lens to read a map, I'm using the most diffused, soft and potentially disappearing light I can to pick out brown topo contour lines, black roads, buildings, declinations, descriptions and such; it'll wash out green to gray, it won't wash out the red on a map, and blue is a hell of a lot less likely to be picked up by someone I don't want to see it. Red sees black and gray, washes out brown, yadayadayada.

By the way - go to the craft store and get some translucent wrapping paper in the mentioned colors. Take a piece large enough to go over your headlight lens, fix it on with a rubber band and you're running with the crowd. Not everyone makes colored lens inserts or covers for their lamps.