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: Chatham-7/17

07-17-2002, 08:54 PM
When to the light house... nothing ...then the shuttle to SB. fished the inside on the drop..nothing... Couldn't believe some guy with a huge plug with trebble hooks landing a couple near the drop off.... took a long time to release it... thought he wasn't so I yell over to let it go...he does but those fish are doomed. Will go to Monomoy tomorrow and sight fish on the drop at the south end.... anyway, I left early on the 10:45 shuttle and took a ride to see Tony Stetzko... bought two of his original watercolors and will pick them up tomorrow...but he also indicated that things were incredibly slow... asked me if I had seen mung on SB...but had not...he has had a few charters with some luck..but not his usual.. we both agreed that things looked like the opposite this year.... not the dropping tide... but the incoming... I have this feeling that the only fish we will see at the light house or on SB, if things don't change, will be on the rising tide. Was going to do Nauset tomorrow but I think my best chances will be at Monomoy. Hope things change...It seems the majority of fish are still feeding off shore... maybe that's why the whales are so close in this year. I also wonder whether El Ninio has anything to do with this .

07-17-2002, 09:15 PM

Just out of curiosity how have the fish there reacted over the last 3 years. I have seen some really different animal patterns especially in the last 36 months. For 2 years the trout here spawned late, the tarpon were really late in Islamorada, the bears up north hibernated late, and the salmon ran late in Alaska. This year thus far the bears came early, the tarpon ran early, and I'm still eagerly waiting to see how our spawn turns out. We had drought to normal conditions here for 2 years, and this year we have had record rain falls. I'm just curious if the weather patterns have changed the migration and or spawning patterns of your fish as well. It seems that our patterns have swung from one extreme to the other.


07-18-2002, 09:42 AM
The stripers have definitely gone into their dog day phase earlier than the last several years from my perspective. I am hoping this will mean that they will come out of it earlier too, making the late summer fishing that much better before the migration.

A lot of squeteague being caught in Rhody this year. Haven't heard or seen tunoids yet but I am thinking this just might be a year that they run the Nantucket Sound shoreline hard like some years I recall.

07-18-2002, 12:05 PM
this just might be a year that they run the Nantucket Sound shoreline hard

Boy I hope you are right!

Hi Juro :)

07-18-2002, 01:53 PM
Hey Jeff! Just wanted to thank you again for the fishing log book... it's getting pretty full! I used to type them on the 'puter but it's much nicer to be able to draw a picture of a shoal or fish as part of the record.

07-18-2002, 02:21 PM
it's much nicer to be able to draw a picture of a shoal or fish as part of the record

Yes it is and you don't have to worry about your computer crashing and losing all those valuable fishing notes :D. Glad to hear you are putting it to good use.

On a side note I just spoke to a friend who is out in a boat east of the lighthouse right now, lucky bum, and has a Striper virgin with him who's first fish today was around 18lbs! They have caught around 16 fish and not one under 10lbs on the boga grip. All fish taken on plastic baits.

07-18-2002, 05:24 PM
John... those are interesting observations and I don't know....but I have to think that the weather MUST be a significant factor... I can not remember ever seeing whales from shore... ever...down here... and they are feeding. Even as Juro says the doldrums are here early...but even with the doldrums you would find good size stripers being flushed out of Pleasant bay right into the Chatham cut... Even with the change in the structure there... there should be stripers stacked up at the breakers waiting for that bait to flush though... oh well.

07-18-2002, 06:07 PM
Heard that a couple of days ago the bass and bait have moved into there places (as in years past) off South Beach in better numbers. Before that it was hit or miss.

This should help all us wade anglers out!

Randy Jones

Recently noticed over 3 days a lot of Gulls picking up 2 inch wide, short in lenght, all most black?, bait fish or worms?.

A friend who is a guide said what he saw looked like worms. Another regular flats fly angler (Tom Thomas - Toms rattle crab) reminded me this morning that last year at this same time we were seeing bass smash small sea robbins.

A small or large bone fish slider would do the trick to imitate these, in my opionion.

Randy Jones