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: Spring Claving


Bri-RN
04-03-2001, 08:07 PM
Can't wait for the weekend to arrive! Not to mention possibly sneaking out a few times before that. I'm in for Sean's place and will wait for the sign-up sheet. Hopefully after trying everyones rods at the casting clave, I too will be the proud new owner of something sea-worthy. The E-bay special IM-6 can only last so long!
Brian Zinck

juro
04-04-2001, 12:36 AM
Brian -

I remember you mentioning a new investment at the clave. What options are you considering? Did you try Hawkeye's new 10wt? Fishhawk's RPL+ 4pc threw the whole airflo 400 with one backcast when I tried it, quite the rip trip set-up. Maybe we could do a rod building project with the aid of guys like Tom Dunlap, Big Pete, Fishhawk and of course the venerable Mr.Smith's advice between now and the spring clave to get something very nice at a reasonable price. Bob P. Jr's advice on the Phil Castleman rods (Heritage) was a good lead, I've only heard great things about them and I love how they cast. I liked Dave Pritchard's T&T 9wt Horizon, it cast very well with the Cortland big game line saturday.

What are your top candidates thus far?

Bob Pink
04-04-2001, 03:56 PM
Brian,
Sorry I completly spaced on getting you Phil's numbers.... Let him know I suggested you call him directly, forget about any special deal it will be one price for everybody but it will be a fair price for the rod.

Castle Arms
Phil Castleman
413-567-8268 (ph)
413-731-1292 (fx)

Bri-RN
04-04-2001, 04:21 PM
Bob, thanx for Phil Castleman's #. I really enjoyed casting your 8wght. I'll call him regarding a price on the 9 or 10 wghts. Juro, I fell in love with Nathan's 10wght (3-4pce) T&T Rod, but I'm sure that the price will knock my socks off. I was thinking of looking @ the new 3 piece Saltwater rod of LLBean. It runs around $300 and I can probably afford that ball Park. Not to mention the lifetime warranty and no questions asked policy by LLBean. No potential headaches down the road.
I'll let you know my decision soon.
Any other Suggestions would be much appreciated!
I'm going to take a look at First Light Anglers in Manchester MA, and up at American Angling in Salem, NH this w/e.
Thanx
Brian Zinck

Adrian
04-04-2001, 04:28 PM
Hi Brian

Whilst you're at American Angling, if Al Bovin is still there say hi for me. He sold me my first saltwater FF outfit back in 1993 before I moved to the USA. It was a Loomis IMX 9 wt. and I've been a fan ever since - even though I've broken four so far!

Ask him if he remembers a Brit called Adrian who used to come up about once a month and spend a fortune!

tomd
04-06-2001, 03:28 PM
Brian, I've heard so many good things about the cabela's travel rods that I ordered one as a backup on a bonefishing trip(it was suggested by a guide). I'll post a reveiw after I get a chance to test it out. Tom D

brianz
04-11-2001, 02:28 PM
I can only find 1 2piece RPL+ 10wght for $380.
Does anyone fish with a DiamondBack (Backwater) 9or10wght? Economically it's right and the feel isn't bad either. I'm trying it out on the commons today.
Thanx

Roop
04-11-2001, 03:56 PM
Brian,

I have a DB Backwater 8 weight that I love but, would strongly suggest you call Smitty at Rod Builders Workshop to try to find a Sage first. I'm pretty sure he has whatever Sage you want.

juro
04-11-2001, 04:37 PM
Everyone's different but I find both of those rods a little stiff for my way of casting. My .02 was that the 9wt RPLX was a very nice rod for SWFF but I found the 10wt RPLX to be tough to cast for more than short periods of time. It's a great rod for on the boat and is famously popular around NE but more than my shoulder could bear.

Personally for a good value I like the DS2 10wt Sage ($240?) but if you are used to stiff rods it might take some getting used to. The advantage is that it takes a lot less out of the shoulder and arm to cast a rod when you let the rod do the work, and to do that you need a rod that will load right. It has no problem throwing the grains, yet it can be fished all day. Stiff rods are assertive but do not load well. When I cast a stiff rod I feel like I am stroking the weight of the line back and forth instead of letting the rod flex and reflex to keep the line in play. The line-speed and quality of loop is no better with a stiff rod than with a well-loaded fast rod that loads well in the sweet spot of the blank. I define that sweet spot as the point on the blank where the caster is comfortable carrying the energy wad through the stroke. My kid used to say it was like a "meatball on a stick". Silly metaphor, but if you were to throw a meatball with a stick accurately at a target, you would (a) take care not to drive the stick thru the meatball as you stroke (b) get a bend in the stick as it comes forward (c ) stop it short with a bit of wrist english so the energy propels the meatball in the desired direction without disintegrating. From the mouths of babes - that was ten years ago, he's much bigger than dad now.

Biggest advantage as far as I can tell is leverage against big fish in deeper water going in favor of the stiff blank.

The rod that loads well without collapsing can be cast all day without joint pain.

But like I said everyone's different and I'll bet people who prefer one rod style can learn a lot from people who prefer another.