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: Overlining


FishHawk
02-22-2001, 04:51 AM
I remember a post where Juro recommended not to overline a rod. However, I have found that when I used the stated line weight for my rod it performed better with one line higher. I have a Sage
RPL+ 9.6 for 9wt and use 10wt lines on the rod it casts like a cannon.Perhaps, its a function of the line manufacturers specs. I use Cortland lines. Is anyone else doing the same? If I can make the casting clave you can try the rod and see what I mean.
FishHawk

artb
02-22-2001, 05:37 AM
I agree with Fishhawk, about overlinning a rod. I mostly fish an 8 weight in the surf, and if it is a little windy I will use a 9 weight line. I haven't broken the rod yet and I built it 3 years ago.
I want to beat Capt. Ray about this. Little Rhody Fly Rodders are having a casting clinic at Lincoln Woods State Park on Saturday April 7,2001 from 9am to 1pm. There will be some pretty good flycasters there, and its free. Maybe Capt Ray will be there.

juro
02-22-2001, 08:50 AM
Good topic - but to be 100% clear, the question was whether to overline a <b>RPLXi</b> 9wt 3pc rod (my own goto striper rod) or not to overline that specific rod.

At the same time, I mentioned that casting a 325 grain sinking line is in fact over-lining (grain weight exceeding rating, etc). So the comment was directed at a particular rod with a particular line style, intermediate weight forward taper.

I used to throw the RPLX (not Xi) 10wt. That rod didn't bend for me unless I overlined it, a lot of guys love that rod because of it's fish tiring ability (small tarpon) and ability to handle 600-800 grain heads (talk about over-lining!).

I also overline two-handed overhand rods all the time. In fact I have an 8/9 that I throw and 11wt line on.

Let's bring all these rods and lines and try 'em at the casting clave firsthand.

Jay C.
02-22-2001, 09:31 AM
Gregg,

I have a 9wt Sage RPLX and I have to overline the thing.
It's a telephone pole without going up at least one weight.
I used the same model 10 wt last year and I was thinking that I could throw a 10 inch fly into a hurricane. Unfortunately the owner of the rod wanted it back, but I then tried a current model RPLXi and it was not at all the same rod.

See ya soon,

Jay

GregS
02-22-2001, 09:45 AM
I fish an RPLX 1090 and always fish it with 11wt lines. I have fished an RPLX 890 and like it better with 9wt lines also.
On the flip side, my trout rod is a mid 70's leonard 5wt that I have used a 4wt long belly floater on for years and I like that just fine.
Today's graphite rods will generally accept line sizes other than the factory rating, and still function nicely. It comes down to personal preference, how it feels and works for you.
Greg

RayStachelek
02-22-2001, 03:29 PM
Normally if you have a very stiff rod tip overlining is not a problem. The rod will take the extra weight. Making a series of shorter cast with less casting strokes is one of the reasons fishers overline. If your into more distance, than stay with the manufactures recommendations. With softer tip rods, the extra weight will present a problem. There won't be enough potential energy to cast the line efficiently. This might also effect a beginners timing and tempo.

One fact I always questioned was Cortland's QD rational. If you ever bought one of these line, on the box it says that the line can be used from a #8-#12 system. That's bull. That's like saying a size 34 waist pants will be fit a person from 175-225 lbs. The fact is that only the first 30 feet of any fly line has to meet standards. The rest can be any weight at all. That's one of the reasons why certain fly lines cast better on certain rods, eventhough they may say there the same on the box.

Some day line and rod manufactures will get together and finally get it straight, much like boat and outboard products have done.

And yes Art, I will be there at Lincoln Woods adding my expertise to anyone who will listen. Here's a secret Art! Even though trout fishing season will not have started, the pond will be stocked. And it's all legal because Rhody Fly Rodders has a permit. Is that a fish?

Why haven't you gone to the meetings?