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: Does size really matter?

03-13-2002, 10:30 PM
People always say, "There is no such thing as a stupid question....."

Well, here's my shot at proving them to be complete nincompoops!:hehe:

What are the range of hook sizes for the majority of saltwater flies that you tie? I realize that there are extremes on both ends of the spectrum. I'm asking what sizes you use for 90% of your patterns.

Ignorantly yours,


03-14-2002, 06:27 AM
I use 1/0 and 2/0 which doesn't mean much. I have the same stupid question (you know, the only really stupid question is the one you don't ask).

03-14-2002, 06:42 AM

in SWFF (and others) the hook size should be proportionate to the fly size, although far less important here than in salmon or trout flies for instance

the pattern defines the fly size, therefore the hook

that being said, I rarely use less than a 1/0 for stripers (juvies, deep eels, etc) and up to 4/5 or even 5/0 for large herring and bunker flies

flats shrimp get a much smaller hook, so I do use them but not as often

first 2 packs of hooks I buy each season is TMC 811s size 1/0 & 2/0

Varivas, if they field test well this season, may take that top notch who knows. I like the concept and quality.

I never use bargain hooks (mustads), life's too short :smokin:

03-14-2002, 06:56 AM
I've been using the Mustads figuring my flies are "quasi-experimental". I've gotten to be fairly competent with the "deep eel" so I'm going to spring for some Tiemco's. I had some expensive (Gamatu (sp?) octopus I think) 5/0 left over from fly tying class a year ago. Took a crack at a couple of Buffys. If you hold the first one far enough away it looks pretty good. First one I tied following Jeff Smith's excellent instructions. Unfortunately I reverted to the quasi-experimental mode on the second and... oh well.

03-14-2002, 07:33 AM
For stripers only:

Deep Eels #2 & 1/0

Flats flies #2 & #4

Silversides #2

Baitfish imitation 2/0 & 4/0

I think if you were to buy hooks in bulk from #2 through 4/0 you would be all set for a year or two.


03-14-2002, 11:57 AM

I will see you this weekend and you can look at the range of hook sizes that I use. 1/0 and 2/0 are the most common for me.

I do use 3/0 and 4/0 for large baitfish patterns too. #2 is a good size for silversides and such - like the one we tied with Art Sawayer at the Wilmongton show.

These stats should be of no surprise since I pattern my life after the lives of Sir Roop and Master Juro.


Dble Haul
03-14-2002, 12:12 PM
Although I am not yet familiar with the Deep Eel (note I said yet ), I have to concur with Roop. In fact, after I read the initial post, these hook sizes were already in the forefront of my mind for the listed situations and patterns.

Based upon Roop's reputation here in the Forum, I'm going to assume that it's GOOD to be thinking along the same lines as him. :D