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: Black Conamara?

03-03-2002, 03:28 PM
Anyone have any info about this fly? Being a web admin for a couple fly realted sites I usually get all kinds of fishing questions from people. Here is one I just recieved recently and looks very sincere but I have no clue as to what this fly is:



My name is Veronica and my father is very sick in hospital as we speak. He
was an avid flyfisherman in his day (which I aspire to be one of these days
:) He asked me today about a fly, that he had never fished with and never
had the opportunity to tie - he has tied a lot of flies in his day.

Do you guys know of a fly called the Black Conamara?(from Ireland, where my
father grew up and fished most of his life! Apparently it's made from
feathers from a hen but the hen needs to be a mature 2 year old before the
feathers will work. My dad got one shot at it, but the fox got the hen first
before my father could harverst the feathers!!!!

If you know how to tie or where we could locate a Black Conamara, it would be
greatly appreciated. My father is 75 years old and I think it would be a
great gift to be able to purchase one for him :)

Thanks for any insight you can give.


I know nothing about this fly but if you do and can fill in some info about the fly that would be cool and I can point Veronica to our site.

Thanks for the help folks,


03-03-2002, 04:02 PM
Connemara Black is a favorite all-rounder which always has a place on a "team of three" when drift fishing the western loughs.

The following dressing is from Courtney-Williams dictionary of trout flies:

Body: Black Wool or Seals fur ribbed with fine oval silver tinsel
Wings: From the bronze shoulder feather of a mallard
Tail: Small golden pheasant crest feather.
Hackle: Natural black cock with hackle from the blue feather of a blue jay' wing in front. black.jpg

This one is size 12 from my old flybox. Not sure about the two yr old hen - maybe substitute for the black cock beard hackle? Many old wet flies used hen rather than cock hackle for more mobility. If anyone out there has any of Peter O'Rieley's books I'm sure you'll find it.

03-03-2002, 08:28 PM
I have a couple I could give him - I got them this past Nov. while in Eire.
Rogan's is a local tying company over there too - try thier website - I don't know the address but do a search, they are prominent over there.

please email if you would like me to mail these flies.

Todd S.

03-04-2002, 04:18 PM
This website has the materials and Connemara flies for sale.

The attached photo is one found on another site.

Suggested recipe:

(All season)
Hook: Size 8-14 Partridge L2A
Tying silk:Black
Tag:Orange floss
Rib:Fine oval silver tinsel
Tail:Golden Pheasant topping
Body:Black seal's fur
Hackle:Black cock or hen with blue jay tied at throat
Wing:Bronze mallard

09-20-2002, 03:49 PM
Just a follow up and kudos to a forum member helping somebody out for no other reason than the love of fishing.

Sprocket came through in the clutch and here is Veronica's response I recieved a few days ago:


Sean, Hi,

sorry, it's been a while, couldn't find you email address and wanted to say a HUGE THANK YOU . I actually did get the flies and was able to mail them to my Dad..... I was leaving for New Zealand remember?, probably not but anyways when I got back my Dad had gotten the flies and I was told to 'get here fast'.... I got over there and my Dad passed away the next day, but I wanted to thank you guys - all of you at the 'forum' for helping me and my Dad, he got a real kick out of the flies, coz I mailed them to him in time....... When I got there, he wasn't able to speak but I remember what we talked about on the phone the week before when I was in New Zeaand and he told me to 'go, get 'em lad'. That I Did :)

Martin J. Conway passed away peacefully with 'all of his family on April 11, 2002'.

Thank you everybody on the forum for helping me bring a smile to my Dad's face.

Veron :)


Things like this make the forum such a great place.


09-20-2002, 04:38 PM
know how many folks you'll touch in your life time. As is frequently the case, it's the simple gestures that mean the most.

09-20-2002, 08:37 PM
Sprocket, Sean -

Wow... I'd be hard pressed to think of a more touching gesture in all of the good that I've seen come out of people sharing a common love of fishing in my lifetime.

Completely impressed and quite inspired,


09-21-2002, 03:25 PM
Sean - please send my most sincere condolences.

I sent her an email sometime after I posted the flies in the mail but never got a reply - kinda blew it off after that...

Whaddayaknow, I can actually do something right once in a while...