01-23-2002, 11:49 PM
I was wondering if anyone has fished both and if there is a noticeable differance between the two.
The 9141-4 was the replacement for the 9140-3. I have heard that the 9140-3 is a total rocket and great for fishing big water and throwing big flies and heavy tips.
Are there any major differances between these two rods. Just curious as I've got a demo...
I'll try to be diplomatic here, but my feelings are pretty definite. The 9140-4 is a noodle rod. I know a number of good rods who love it , but I simply never have. It was the first "cool" rod, but whenever I cast one I always wondered if the line was going to get off the water! It is just too soft for me.
On the other hand the 9140-3 IS a cannon! To be fair this rod is really a 10wt, but it handles heavy tips, long casts big flies - big fish. I've said so many times, it was my firet speyrod, but after owning 6 rods and having unlimited access to another dozen or so the 9140-3 is still one of my most used rods. 'Nuff said.
01-24-2002, 12:31 AM
I was actually referring to the Euro Style 9141-4 and not the Traditional 9140-4. But that is okay because I enjoy listening to you rant about the 9140-4. ;)
Okay... the 9140-3 is ... uh, cheaper than the 9141 ... yeah - that's my story and I'm sticking it with it!
01-24-2002, 11:34 AM
I have an older, before 2001, 9140, and a 9141. The difference is night and day. The 9141 is much faster and more powerfull. I haven't used the 9140 since I bought the 9141 a year ago.
01-24-2002, 04:43 PM
Jim Sand, Are you sure you aren't referring to the Sage 9140-4, the 4 piece traditional action,not the 3 piece euro action?
I own the 9140-3 Euro action and I can say I really like this rod.
It is a very good Tip rod, and it works well as a big river floating line cannon (and even tip when needed) for bigger fish.
Having said that, I heard about the 9141-4 coming out as the sort of replacement for the 9140-3 (although I don't think they can replace the 9140-3, it's got it's own niche). I managed to cast the 9141-4 at casting school and I can say this.
That they are similar rods in that they will cast pretty much the same lines, but the 9141-4 is a bit more responsive thanks to it's graphite IIIe compared to the 9140-3 which has Graphite III.
The Main difference though, is that the 9141-4 seems to rely more on the stiffness of the graphite as opposed to the taper, to give it it's quickness. The 9140-3 relies a bit more on it's taper and is a bit more beefy in that respect. The 9141-4 I found slightly harder to time than the 9140-3, HOWEVER, when I did time it right, it threw VERY tight loops.
All in all, I don't think you will be dissastisfied if you pickup either of these rods, the 9141-4 and the old 9140-3 euro action, both being great rods for tips and big river cannons. The 9141-4 is a 4 piece which might give it the slight advantage, but the 9140-3, if you can find it, will most likely be cheaper because it is discontinued.
I will say this, I started with the 9140-3, and this rod is REALLY growing on me. If I ever had the choice, I would take the 9140-3 simply because I know the rod, and I like it. Also, if for some reason I ever lost the 9140-3, or it was stolen, or it was broken and Sage only would offer me the 9141-4 as a replacement instead of fixing the rod, I would be Quite choked.