12-10-2001, 01:03 PM
Can anyone give me some tips on how to tie a deadly fly that is relatively easy to make, and one that doesn't take a lot of materials.:confused:
12-10-2001, 01:42 PM
You're going to get many different responses to this, but there isn't a fly that's much simpler to tie than a clouser. Here's all the materials you need:
Bucktail (one or two colors, your choice)
Flash material (krystal flash, flashabou, etc.)
Here's how to make it:
1. Attach the hook to the thread and tie in the eyes on top of the hook shank with x wraps and figure 8 wraps. The eyes should be about 1/3 hook length back from the hook eye. If desired, secure the wraps around the eyes with fast-drying cement like Zap-a-Gap.
2. Secure a sparse clump of bucktail and tie it in place on top of the hook in front of the eyes. Once secured, wrap the thread behind the eyes and secure the bucktail in this spot. Once secured behind the eyes, wrap the thread back in front.
3. If you have a rotary vise, turn the fly upside down. If not, remove the hook from the vise and put it back in upside down. Tie in a few strands of flash material, then a second sparse clump of bucktail. This will be the top of the fly, so if you're using two different colors of bucktail, the darker of the two usually goes here.
4. Whip finish and apply cement if so desired.
Tied in different sizes, this fly will catch nearly anything that swims and eats smaller fish. You can paint the dumbell eyes if you want, or use gold or nickel eyes for flash. Just remember to tie the fly sparsely; too much bucktail won't let ambient light through, and the fly won't have that natural baitfish transluscence.
Good luck and have fun.
One fly is the deep eel / real eel, you'll see it in the striper fly archive.
The other is a Rays fly.
Thread: light green or pale yellow monocord.
Hook: 2 to 4/0 1X short. Eagle Claw #254 or equivalent
Body: Silver Bill's Body Braid or tinsel yarn
Wing: A small bunch of white bucktail over which is tied two strands of pearl Flashabou, a smaller bunch of light yellow bucktail, two strands of pearl Flashabou topped by a still smaller bunch of olive bucktail.
Topping: four or five strands of peacock herl.
Length: two to six inches.
From Ray's site: http://www.osfn.org/~af602/#PSF
12-10-2001, 04:28 PM
I agree that I think the clouser is about the easiest to tie. Just remember when using bucktail not to tie the materal too tight otherwise the bucktail will splay way out.... unless you want it to.
34007 hook, size 2 - 2/0 (I mostly use 2). get zonker strips(cut lengthwise) and crosscut(across the direction of the fur). get these in any color you want, white is very versital. tie a peice of zonker along the top of the shank, then palmer the crosscut ftom above the hook point (tie in and spin the strip so the fur faces rearward) as you go up the shank keep the strip parralel to the last time around. when you reach the head, whip finish and use head cement... that's it!!! you can add flash with the zonker if you desire. Tom D :D
12-10-2001, 08:56 PM
Great question, but you need to put it in the context of where you are going to fish and what species (we'll assume that since the post is in the striper forum that this) is your target.
Without a doubt, the clouser has probably taken a wider variety of species than any other fly. It fit's the bill as easy to tie and as long as you are careful (we've all taken at least a couple off the back of the head), it's easy to cast. But since you are posting from Maine you might find that it's effectiveness is limited to some of the tidal estuaries where smaller baits are prevelant.
I've fished clousers down at Ferry Beach or the Mousam with good results but they'd be lost in the deeper, faster waters of Maine that are home to the bigger fish.
There are some excellent fly shops in Maine, I'd contact the folks at Eldridge to see if they have a beginners class or call Dana at the Tackle Shop on India St in Portland to see if he will have any classes this winter. Dana might even give you a few pointers right at the counter some winter afternoon.
All this comes with a warning, tying is (almost) as addictive as the fishing. (Just ask striblue!)
Feel free to mail if you have questions or if you'd like some links to fly tying http://forums.evilnet.net/ubb/smilies/pc1.gif websites.
I recently taught a neighbor's son how to tie a striper fly, probably about the same age as you. I consider a Bob Clouser Deep Minnow (aka clouser) a lot harder than many other flies so taught him a lefty's deceiver. For one thing, it's tied upside down. Plus it's hard to get the bucktail to lay right on a 'clouser' because when you wrap it it spreads out like a fan. Then you have to under-wrap the thread right and criss-cross the thread or the eyes come loose. You have to get enough bucktail on the same side as the hook to make it swim upside down too.
A deceiver is just three main parts and an eye. The tail, belly and back - topped off with some angel hair and a sticker eye made permanent with a small gob of epoxy. (Have dad help you with it the first couple times). Tied in white and olive with a little rainbow angel hair on the back and you'll have a winner of a fly.
I agree with TomD, the bunny fly is one of the easiest out there and catches fish really well too. Tom's right, for stripers it's probably the best choice for a starter fly you can whack a bunch of stripers on.
Good luck and keep us posted!