10-18-2001, 12:33 AM
If anyone has not heard, Cortland is coming out with a new series of line this January.
Its a hollow mono-core and as a floating line its suppose to float like a cork as their are air pockets within the core.
Anyways, they are producing a new striper line. From what I understand after talking with the rep today it is suppose to be an awesome line. Its got a short heavy head on it to turn over large flies followed by I believe a .027 or .031 running line. Its a full sink Intermediate line and I believe it may be a clear line. Its a very soft line with a super low memory. I didnt have a chance to throw the striper line but I threw the standard 555 floating and it casts very very well.
I was hoping to snag one or two to send out to Juro, but he didnt have any samples.
10-18-2001, 06:02 AM
Sounds like a great line probably about $60. Ken Abrhams swears by floating line for striper fishing. What do people think of using floating lines for striper fishing? NrthFrk what is that fly on your Icon. Looks very fishy can you share the pattern with us?
Thanks Ryan - great to have a consumer working at a flyshop on the board. That used to be me too, back when. You didn't follow the rep out to the car before you ask for samples! Ol' trick.
Fishhawk - IMHO, FWIW and all that there are advantages when fishing certain types of water and flies but I would hesitate to call it "the" line to have for the job. Certainly won't get you too far in some of my favorite rips. I could also live without the surface commotion on a sunny flat. In a twilight estuary fishing gurglers, it would be the ultimate.
10-18-2001, 09:52 AM
Fishhawk, I know a lot of people use intermediate lines and they are an advantage in many cases.. But I own no intermediate lines and only use full sink tip, heavy grain lines.. Rio Deep sea or the old Teeny lines. It has never hurt my fishing, in fact I think it helps under the conditions we fish here in the north east. A friend of mine who I fish with occasionally this summer..Jack White.. switched from intermediate to full sink tip and admitted that his strike and hook rate doubled.. You need to keep it down. just my opinion
Striblue, not to beat the horse but until they make a clear sinking (verses intermediate) line I still need the intermediate line for sight fishing the flats. On the other hand, fishing that intermediate line in our favorite little rips near South Beach would be a terrible waste of good fishing time. On the other hand, I hate fishing poppers on fast sink line... although I love fishing poppers. I love a sinking line as much as anyone but IMHO it all depends on the situation at hand.
When are these manufacturers going to make a fast sinking clear line anyway? I could sure use this sight fishing on deeper flats and faster currents.
10-18-2001, 01:39 PM
Yes, I agree.. I think the sight fishing can be tough with a sinking line... well.. Maybe I will "NEED" some extra spools for all those reels.. Thanks for the idea.. if my wife finds out I will tell her you made me do it. ;-)
10-18-2001, 02:50 PM
I've heard that the 555 will also be available as a full floating clear line. Any truth to this rumor?
10-18-2001, 03:26 PM
Quote >>When are these manufacturers going to make a fast sinking clear line anyway?<<
When they start making clear "lead." :)
10-19-2001, 02:25 AM
It will retail for about $55.
The fly in my icon is a spade. One of the best summer steelie patterns ever. And why??...because its very buggy. :)
10-19-2001, 08:26 AM
I think what Abrahms is talking about is two-fold. First, he argues that many large stripers are caught by eelers up near the surface. So why are so many flyfishermen using sinking line? He disagrees with the notion that the heavy sink gets swept less by the current then floating or intermediate.
Second, he seems to be saying --- and this is more my interpretation --- that floating line allows you to better see and adjust the drift of your line and lets you present the fly better.
I definitely have some sympathy with this as I have often found that fishing a rip requires just the right presentation. I watched fish feeding in the current under a bridge last night and every time they came up in almost the same place. They never broke the surface, but fed just under it. I'm going to be experimenting this weekend around here fishing some rips with floating line and a sinking tip.
(BTW: went out last night to fish the big new moon tide and simply blew my timing: hit the last hour of the outgoing, slack tide and the first hour of the incoming. Deadsville. Got back to shore and the tide was ripping :( Saved the night with a half-dozen small fish under the lights inside the marina. That kind of fishing gets better this time of year as they take the boats out and leave the lights on, opening up more lighted fishing area. ...Waiting now for those fish to finish their business up north and head down here to S. NY.)