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: The Second Coming of Monomoy is HERE


juro
02-13-2013, 09:49 PM
Photo from Monomoy Island Ferry's facebook site:

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/307910_536430896377189_320940612_n.png

Redfisher
02-14-2013, 09:14 AM
Keep praying that it doesn't close up and that we get another nor'easter to deepen it a little.

Dan

boatdrinks
02-14-2013, 09:41 AM
this is fantastic! Who's up for getting out there with shovels???

JonC
02-14-2013, 10:09 AM
The best news I've heard for a while, the beginning of a new chapter for the Monomoy fishery.
JC

juro
02-14-2013, 10:36 AM
My gut says it's here for the duration, which admittedly isn't all that long but long enough for a lot of memories to be made.

If you're on Facebook check out Monomoy Island Ferry and Monomoy Refuge pages. The video of the incoming flood says this break is here to stay (relatively).

Put it this way, that next break above it is the main Chatham Inlet, and there is a small break the size of the "guzzle" (anyone remember that?) above the lobe that is spilling water making this segment a potential new island (?)

It is for real.

Redfisher
02-14-2013, 08:17 PM
Latest update. http://www.capecodonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20130214/NEWS/302140338

Interesting video and comments from the Chatham Harbormaster.

Dan

sickb4st4rd
02-14-2013, 09:20 PM
Just saw it. That is AWESOME !!!

zimmjas
02-14-2013, 10:55 PM
Keeping my fingers crossed. This is great news! Thanks for posting it Juro!

BigDave
02-15-2013, 07:51 AM
Interesting. I'll start paying more attention if it becomes navigable. It would be nice to have a shortcut to the backside beaches in the summer months. Without better flow it looks like it's going to fill it or say permanently knee deep like the crib...we'll see.

juro
02-15-2013, 08:46 AM
Dave -

Several small boats have navigated it with a reported depth of about 8ft as of yesterday with huge tides going this week and most (myself included) feel that it's going to be around for a while.

Damn even one full season would be the sh*t :)

boatdrinks
02-15-2013, 09:25 AM
this could really help tuna fishing too, as well as getting to the bass if they stack up off of one of the breaks as they did the last two Augusts.

bonefishdick
02-18-2013, 08:23 AM
Hopefully the new cut will bring back both the fishery and the water taxi.

I miss Outermost and their service and with the renewed anticipation from everyone as to what this cut will do to improve the fishing, I am hopeful the cut it will also improve the need and support for their service start up again and keep them running.

I hope we get to see a positive reply about this.

bigduck10
02-26-2013, 07:57 PM
For us land locked folks what is the significance of the cut in the sand barrier?

Redfisher
02-27-2013, 08:47 AM
Hopefully if the new break remains open it will bring cooler waters and more stripers back to the Monomoy flats.

When the Southway was open, cool ocean water kept water temperatures on the flats in a range which stripers liked. The Southway also permitted stripers to move from the ocean to the flats. With cooler waters on the flats and easy access for stripers there was great fishing through the entire summer. When the Southway closed water temperatures on the flats rose and the number of stripers dropped, closing down a world class fishery.

If the new break remains open, we are all hoping that the flats fishing will return.

Back when the flats fishing was great, several water taxis used to ferry (for a reasonable fee) dozens of wading anglers to various locations on the flats. It was one of the best locations on the East Coast for the wading angler.

Dan

bigduck10
02-28-2013, 02:01 PM
Got it. Thanks for the information.

boatdrinks
02-28-2013, 03:43 PM
don't forget about all of the other places that could be helped by some new clean seawater such as the bathtub itself and morris island.

boatdrinks
03-08-2013, 08:21 AM
well there were 20' seas coming from the E yesterday with major erosion all over the backside and apparently Sandwich got rocked. Any change to the newest break?

boatdrinks
03-08-2013, 08:27 AM
This sounds like good news about S. Beach/Monomoy bad news about everything else:

http://www.capecodonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20130308/CCOLBARKER/130309809

juro
03-09-2013, 12:57 PM
New break has increased dramatically since this weeks storm blasted the coast. Latest video on https://www.facebook.com/ChathamSouthway shows the distance to the new "South Island" or with the land bridge over the old southway South Monomoy extension :Eyecrazy:

There is no doubt that the refuge will be fresh this summer.

OC
03-10-2013, 12:46 PM
Now you will have the MAN passing through the break and cruising the warmer shallow waters eating little children and wading fly fishermen alike. :smokin:

Looking forward to seeing it all in late May or early June.

juro
03-10-2013, 02:54 PM
LOL - indeed he will. Whitey used to visit the refuge often before the old southway closed up, seals were there in large numbers and he knew where to "get a bite".

One of my most memorable encounters was down at J bouy with two clients. Fish were on the humps and we were wading deep when the harbormaster came over and told us to back up. Puzzled, I asked why and he said "just seen a white shahk".

I asked when did you see it last and he said "just motored over it". We scrambled back and moved further up toward the big flat across from the crib :Eyecrazy:

boatdrinks
03-11-2013, 08:47 AM
yeah the tub's going to have a major reversion this season

boatdrinks
03-15-2013, 03:22 PM
juro, have you heard through your grapevine whether the main part on Monomoy (the section of the island below the flats) sustained any damage? It gets really skinny a little north of Highbank although the dunes might be a little higher.

juro
03-16-2013, 10:07 AM
Haven't heard anything, but that's a good point about the 'gooseneck' down there. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a lot of washover though. I could ask around down at the fish dock, the commercials head around a lot maybe soon they'll cut through as well :)

boatdrinks
03-18-2013, 12:46 PM
yeah it could be interesting.

rooster
03-31-2013, 07:30 PM
One can only hope! This is great

rooster
03-31-2013, 07:30 PM
One can only hope! This is great

boatdrinks
04-02-2013, 08:41 AM
should be able to go look soon

juro
04-02-2013, 11:57 AM
Already looks way different this past weekend. Migration should cut directly through it.

boatdrinks
04-03-2013, 08:10 AM
I just hope the rips fish as well as before although this is a lot closer

juro
04-03-2013, 04:30 PM
When the old southway was open, the point rip was smokin' hot all thru the dog days of summer (search the archives for reports of those adventurous day trips with Rip Ryder).

Back then there were plenty of big bass on the flats all the way up to the tub all summer as well, so I don't think things down at the tip rip will change a bit, it's several miles away for one thing and with this new cut maybe we'll see those big bass from out on the outer rips duck in to this new ideal habitat in fact I am sure we will if not on occasion the whole season.

The days of 40+ inch bass in 24 inches of water are about to return to Monomoy :smokin:

boatdrinks
04-04-2013, 08:53 AM
that's true. They used to fish very well then

flyflicker
04-11-2013, 12:09 PM
My memories of the old times in that area are still very fresh because the quality of the water and fish was so amazing. I have lost track of just how long it's been since that awesomeness... How many years has it been?

boatdrinks
04-11-2013, 04:32 PM
too many. When did it close, 2006?

PopnesetBay
05-01-2013, 07:02 PM
A word, or rather several words of warning about new cut. When the tides turn and flow starts it gets very 'milky' with loose sand! Those very interesting, flats that are being formed on the inside are very unstable, to say the least. It is like quicksand out there. Very unsafe as the sand has not had time to settle. You can be on what feels like solid footing and have everything go out from under you. Until things really settle if you are going to wade out there be sure you have flotation device on and suggest that no-one go out there unaccompanied. Right now it is a very attractive place with a serious disaster waiting to happen. Please be careful!!!

boatdrinks
05-02-2013, 09:09 AM
I took the boat over to it on Saturday. At high tide it is very navigable. You have to approach it a certain way but there's a lot of water in there.

juro
05-02-2013, 10:17 AM
Words of warning are warranted, same situation existed on old southway, the new cut as well as the main Chatham Inlet for that matter - definitely a cause for caution.

That being said, the infusion of oxygenated water should bring fish deep into the refuge again and the west common flats are flat as pavement mid-to-crib.

About time to get out there!

boatdrinks
05-02-2013, 01:38 PM
get out there Juro! Water at the new break was 46 degrees on Saturday. Sound water down by herring river was as warm as 51 and water in the harbors was 54.

flyflicker
05-02-2013, 02:53 PM
It looks like good weather for the weekend. I'm likin' that, I'll be in Chatham flogging the water on Sat, Sun & Monday. Thinking of at least walking down the stairs and heading toward stage

juro
05-02-2013, 04:55 PM
There's been good numbers of weakies caught on the south side! I haven't feasted on a squeteague filet since... I can't even remember what year!

flyflicker
05-03-2013, 09:02 AM
That's really interesting, I haven't caught any of those since 2000 in Newport, RI. They are indeed tasty.

boatdrinks
05-03-2013, 09:22 AM
flyflicker,
The water in the tub was really cold last weekend. I would suggest moving further west to another southside tributary. PM me for ideas if you want.