: Prospecting for new spots (Nahant)
02-03-2000, 11:15 AM
Alyways wondered about this. My wifes grandmother has a small house out on Nahant, Ma. When we go to see her I notice lots of possible striper spots. I've poked around a bit and found many nice locales on the island that look fishy. I'm sure she would loan me her car which could get me access to a numner of spots. It just seems like a lot of cliff fishing, and I'm not sure. Anyone ever been out there or have any thoughts about new spot prospecting?
02-03-2000, 12:54 PM
The guy to talk to would be Ted Lewis. He used to run the flyfishing dept. at Bob Smiths/Wilderness house in Boston, and now he is somewhere on the North Shore at a different shop. He lives, or lived, in Nahant and used to show me some incredible pictures of the bass fishing he did there. He has a page in the new bob Ververka book, and I suspect the picture of him with that big bass is from Nahant.
Don't know where you usually fish, but if it's the Cape and you're not used to cliff fishing, it is HIGHLY reccomended (I don't want to presume you haven't but that was how I read your post). i'll see if I can find out where Ted hides out these days.
02-03-2000, 01:12 PM
Wow, thanks Jeff. Good stuff. I live a mere 25 mins from Nahant. Haven't done much cliff fishing. A little up Cape Ann.
I figured there was a good oppurtunity for stripering on Nahant by the looks of it. And there are many nooks and cranny's with nobody fishing! Hmmm....
I spent some time fishing there as a kid while visiting friends of my dad's. The host was the doctor who fixed Tony Conigliaro's eye (anyone remember?)... nice place he had.
Anyway, when I got my 71 chevelle I went back and fished the causeway. Blues would run the bait right into the shoreline by that pub on the north facing edge. Did very well.
My friend Ed Griffin fishes there regularly at night, last time I heard he landed a 40" on an american black eel "fly". He does also love to flyfish. I'll ask him about his knowledge of Nahant and it's current potential as a flyfishing spot.
Even without asking, the area is a natural fish magnet and the structure is everywhere. When the bait is around it's sure to be a winner. The issue is access due to it's exclusiveness as a convenient locale for well-to-do Bostonians. I'd take any opportunity to fish from Nahant shores during season that I could get.
Let me know if you ever need a research assistant.
02-03-2000, 02:15 PM
Sounds like fun. I'll try and lay some groundwork . When the season arrives we'll see how things are then. Once some potential areas are located and car with Nahant sticker arranged (hee hee) I could envision (we do a lot of that these days)a weekday am trip like so:
first light- start fishing Nahant Hot Spot
8:00 am- quit fishing said hot spot
9:00 am- arrive at work on high tech highway with far away look in eyes
Or of course a weekend half day of fishin our butts off!
Good local stuff. Check it out:
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02-03-2000, 06:21 PM
I think the issue is primarily one of access (read: parking).
I've fished with a guy who works at GE in Lynn, who has motorcycle parking access in somebody's driveway, and swears by the place as having great big fish potential. I mean, if I were a bass, and saw all those rocks.... I've toyed with the idea of putting the boat in somewhere around there, or even taking the kayak and launching from the causeway, but haven't made it reality yet. Maybe this year. Count me in if you want some company.
This is a good thread, in fact I got an idea. Gotta get a light bulb icon... but that's not the idea.
Let's research the place and publish an article on it. We could do a skinny version on the site and sell the article to On the Water or something. Owners of a well known big site in New England have been talking about harvesting the insights of the members and making money for themselves from our offerings to their board. Can you imagine? What I am talking about here is pooling the insights of the members together and making money for the members!
Once we get good we could become a regular supplier for publishing houses... they don't have enough quality material. Wouldn't it be sweet if they came to us to get material every month instead of the usual begging by sportsmen to have large publications print our stories?
The key is to work together, the guild thing I mentioned. We can polish these reports up against each other's comments and we will also have a place to tease readers and publishers alike.
My hope is that those who get published could return a small percentage into the forum to keep it going, and to fund fun things. Just think if we get big enough we pay for a trip to Belize in February! Most likely it will cover some swanky flats shirts with our logo embroidered or something in 2000.
I have got several ideas like this to benefit members while building the forum mindshare on the world-wide web. Your ideas are welcome, this is in fact a forum and will always remain so.
02-04-2000, 08:13 AM
Such entrepreneurial spirit. I guess this site needs at least some measure of commerce to keep the fires burning. It's just too much to expect someone to keep a large effort like this board running simply for the love of it. So I am stepping up to the plate and accepting it (not that it's up to me, I'm just coming out in support of it). I trust the level of give and take will remain high. I'm benefitting, for sure. As far as sales of reports, I'm from the show me state. Need to see how these things might materialize. Not looking for monetary gains really (unless it's huge and I need one of them new Reddington Reels). But the site will need it.
As for Nahant, well I at least have a parking spot out there on Little Nahant, possibly wheels too. Could be a fun project. I envision small Pollack near the rocks as I've seen in Rockport and the Isle of Shoals. Any Pollack patterns?
02-04-2000, 03:00 PM
Hmmm...pollock patterns. Well, although I know none of you personally, other than very briefly introducing myself to Juro at the Marlboro show, I will confide in you this secret. My number one pattern for big bass last year around Boston was a pollock pattern--all spawned by my taking a 29 lber on a live pollock one hot July afternoon. My pattern is a take off of a grocery fly, if i had a fancy scanner I'd post it. But, why bother when there is a pollock pattern in the Bob Veverka book that looks even better than mine. And who tied it? You guessed it, Ted Lewis (see above posts). Coincidence? Probably not.
The spun deerhair is really a great idea--with a fast sinking line off the cliffs you should be able to get some good depth which will then be offset by the neutral buoyancy of the fly between strips or on swings in the current. The two-toned spun hair also looks very cool (the top half is green and the bottom half white if you don't have the book).
I get ancy just thinking about dredging 9" pollock patterns around all the deep rock structure around greater Boston. I'd say you are on to something. Will trade pollock pattern for trip to Nahant ;)
02-07-2000, 07:03 PM
Been to Nahant many times for other reasons than fishing. If it's a hot spot (and I'm sure it is), it's a well-kept secret. As for access, I know of a couple of very small parking lots but don't know whether parking is allowed in them at night. But I've parked at both during the day without any hassles. Anyway, due to their space limitations, I'm not keen on revealing them publicly. One is obvious and another less so. Anyway, e-mail me if you need more clues http://188.8.131.52/images/flytalk/Wilk.gif
02-22-2000, 06:56 PM
Just to complete this thread, I spent some time this weekend upgrading my wife's grandmothers computer in Nahant. She gave me the "anytime" on use of her car with Nahant sticker (at 5:00 in the morning) for some fishing. So my little research project is on for some new rock fishing sites this spring. Could be a fun venture. I'll need help.
02-23-2000, 03:53 PM
Competely off the subject, but you wrote:
>when I got my 71 chevelle.....
That was my Very First Car, ask Al to tell you a story or two.
But getting back to the subject ... What about Hull Gut?
This location is on Frank D's. Top 100 list and my dad claimed his biggest fish at that spot (~60" in the late 50's).
02-23-2000, 04:23 PM
I kept my boat in Hingham last summer, so I exited the inner harbor area via Hull Gut often. I fished it quite a bit, usually drifting on an outgoing tide and casting into the rock reef on the Peddocks island side, although sometimes I could actually position into a back-eddy, turn the motor off, and cast into the 4 knot current of the channel without really moving--pretty cool. I usually steer clear of the Hull side due to shore anglers but a great rip does set up there.
I have never taken any big fish there on the fly though, I must confess. Tons of small to medium sized fish. It gets an insane amount of boat traffic, and i have almost dinged the rocks a few times trying to get into the structure. Had some rookies in the boat one day during small craft warnings, and my buddie hooked a real nice fish on a pencil popper--broke off 20 lb. test. I heard a couple years ago somebody took a 50 lb. fish there in the middle of a hot day on a mackerel chunk--guess you never know.
Terry, I plan on shooting up to Nahant this year by boat to try the Southern facing shoreline, which looks pretty good on the chart--we will have to exchange our success and failures...
03-25-2000, 05:32 PM
I had to revive this ol thread to give the scouting report. Went out to my wife's grandmothers today at Nahant as planned. It was a great surprise to find her raring to go. Great to see some fishing research bring her joy. This lady in her late 70s was pumped. She's trying to get the latest sticker on her car for me too, and had a couple of public access spots to show me (resident only).
She showed me the way to "40 Steps" beach out by East Point.
There is sticker parking there only (which I have!) It was low tide, and you would not believe the classic cliffs that were exposed. 10 to 20' high with the high water mark most of the way up. Incredible structure! Northeastern U. has their Marine Lab there which I knew. But what I didn't know is: once you park in the resident sticker lot you can walk through the Northeastern property out to East point proper.
All in all, this place looks incredible, and I'm told, low fishing pressure due to the private property thang. When the stripers come in I'm heading out there to catch some high tides. Be glad to take one at a time with me.
Please sign me up for a visit! Great schnauzer work Terry. Won't be long now.