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: Chatham, Feb 4 Airials

03-29-2011, 12:20 PM

Feb 24 that is.

If it doesn't start at hardings parking lot, play it again sam.

03-29-2011, 06:11 PM
Thanks Fred. After some time glazing over those photos, I've seen some changes, e.g. The slimmer waistline on S. Monomoy and the new bar in front of the light. Also, looks like the new cut has gotten smaller.

The good news for me will be two new areas to fish as a result of the changes. See you in a month plus.

03-29-2011, 06:27 PM
Yes Thanks Fred...that is also the same company that has a shop in Chatham Center and has sold arial photos for years I think.

03-30-2011, 08:11 AM
yeah they do a good job. I have a couple hanging in the house. The old break looks really small but maybe the narrower opening will make it more passable. Lots of interesting stuff in pleasant bay!

03-30-2011, 08:28 AM
Love seeing these arials. Slight tweak to the link gets it to start at the beginning:

03-30-2011, 08:12 PM

check out the longshore bars, slots and trough on the outside of the new break.

that new 90 degree bar is in a killer spot for the outgoing too. :wink:

i might have to take the beachcomber shuttle out there one day.

a March 20 pic :

there also seems to be a clear channel now between the south beach dead zone and the flats south of North Monomoy. hopefully that will flush south beach a litle more and lift the fishing back up a bit.

though of course, with this big noreaster coming in on Friday, it could all be different next week :chuckle:

03-31-2011, 08:23 PM
Thanks for posting these. The images have gotten the endorphins flowing .....

Now I can believe its just a handful of weeks away.

04-01-2011, 07:13 AM
I did really well out there last season in the jeep. One could hardly relax and enjoy a day on the beach without getting interrupted by fish sightings :)

Won't be long now...

04-01-2011, 07:19 AM
I wonder if Keith will use his north shuttle this year. Can not remember how that worked out last year.

04-01-2011, 07:44 AM
If so let's do a north/clave John. Park elsewhere and consolidate vehicles though, the parking situation at the fish dock is ridiculous.

04-01-2011, 09:34 AM
I would love to that...with situations as there are at south beach and MM, and your experiences there, it would be a great trip. We should speak with Keith.

04-01-2011, 09:37 AM
Actually I haven't fished the new island but I've watched them hooking up from the end of Nauset so it would be new water for me. The outside is the outside of course, and I will be fishing the Mecca end all summer from the new dory after digging a basket of clams and checking the pots :)

04-01-2011, 10:23 AM
If so let's do a north/clave John. Park elsewhere and consolidate vehicles though, the parking situation at the fish dock is ridiculous.

The web site says there is a park n ride to the dock.

04-05-2011, 05:18 AM
They are probably referring to the park/ride for $10 r/t from Eldridge's lot. Not many people use it, the lot and the road is wall to wall cars every nice day.

04-05-2011, 06:23 AM
They say it's free on their Website.

04-05-2011, 06:36 AM
Sweet deal, especially in Chatham. The muni lot then probably.

04-05-2011, 08:54 AM
I dunno, it says free old time trolly ??? - I can't wait to see all the guys with the double handers in waders on that :chuckle:

04-05-2011, 09:01 AM
hahahaha - the tourists will be snapping photos

04-05-2011, 12:15 PM
Be aware, the Beachcomber does not start running until 10:00 or, usually later. A couple of years ago I made numerous trips out the North Beach and we NEVER left before 10.

Also, parking at the pier is brutal. DO NOT park in the lower lot. It's an automatic $50 ticket.

04-05-2011, 02:43 PM
The gut is really narrow... this picture taken at dawn yesterday. n.jpg
Photo Copyright Juro Mukai; All Rights Reserved

04-05-2011, 05:03 PM
Be aware, the Beachcomber does not start running until 10:00 or, usually later. .

i think you are correct. I called them last year and that's what they told me.

However, I am pretty sure they were not advertising 'flats fishing' on their website last year.

besides, if we have four or more people i bet they'd take you early for the $$$$.

04-05-2011, 08:34 PM
Mark, I think you are probably correct or at least close to the minimum number. Would be interesting to see if Rip Ryder is going to come up with something also or work in conjunction with someone already in the "bay".


04-07-2011, 04:20 AM
The Beachcomber primarily shuttles beachgoers to North Beach. That's why the 10:00 start. The one year I fished North a lot, I was the only fisherman going out.

Jimmy, who runs the shuttle, is a great guy but, we never left at 10 it was always later.
This may have changed but, the south half of North Beach was unfishable once the tide came in due to the many seals that came in.

04-07-2011, 07:06 AM
The south end is now shaped like a giant mitten sort of with a thumb to the shoreward side reaching all the way down to the parking lot at mid-tide and the heel of the thumb coming very close to Holway St point.

The fingers of the hand extend almost as far south as the lighthouse (in parallel) and the ocean breaks stop on that outer bar making the inside fingers explorable in a small craft.

These form a large bay in the palm with a flat and a lot of structure as of today. Outgoing will have a strong current flowing on the beach side, large flats in the middle and the ocean-facing bars and breaks to the east in an area of maybe 4-6 sq miles of fishy water.

North of the "wrist" the Pleasant Bay we used to know is now a complex myriad of shifting sand bars which are going to be just amazing to explore in the dory this summer.

And of course just above that is the new break now over a mile wide. This has rejuvenated the upper bay and I am sure there PB is the new South Beach.

I have always done best in the inlet at the bottom of the tide with current causing bait and feeding to line up under tension. With the dory under manned power I will hang out until the incoming to get the free ride back to the landing.

Is it May yet? _n.jpg
photo copyright j.mukai 2011 - all rights reserved

04-07-2011, 08:57 AM
Wow! Is it May yet too?

04-08-2011, 08:27 AM
That channel along the beach is going to be amazing. I'd love to take a flats boat (or dory) and explore all those bars by the new cut there. I always like fishing around strong and it looks even better than ever!

04-08-2011, 08:44 AM
It really does... can't wait. I think there will be a lot of reasons for the bass to come in through the inlets and strafe around in there, I'll bet the sight fishing will be reminiscent of the glory days to the south before it closed up.

04-08-2011, 10:30 AM
That new cut has been so good for the bay. The fishing has definitely improved around Strong and over to Minister's point, lasting much longer into the summer than it used to. the higher tides and more moving water is helping the estuaries too, the water in the back of the bay (Ryder's, crow's pond and so forth) is colder and cleaner.

04-08-2011, 11:16 AM
Big effect on the shellfishing too. Sand is moving around like crazy, Andrew Hardings has gone from sand-anemic to swollen dunes with 40 yards from the rocks to the water on mid-tide. Looks really fishy, I will walk over there a lot this summer.

04-08-2011, 12:46 PM
Agreed. I'd love to see some oysters start to make a comeback in Pleasant
Bay. The bigger tides have been kinda fun too. I'm hoping the clean water helps the eelgrass.

04-08-2011, 04:01 PM
Now that bay scallops are closed until November, I can mention that there were a lot of scallops on the stretch from Cowyard up to Cotchpinicut this winter :) Hardly any down at Stage so most gave up.

04-11-2011, 08:06 AM
I've never dug any shellfish in that area but it looks like it could be good for scallops. Too many rocks for quahogs/steamers I would guess. Surprising about the scallops in Stage, after the year they had last year. I didn't go oystering or scalloping in Stage last winter but the year before it was awesome.

04-11-2011, 08:58 AM
2009 was amazing for scallops in that area but sparse in 2010. However it was a bumper year for blue crab. I had an outstanding year for all other clam species in 2010 besides scallops.

04-11-2011, 07:07 PM
Let's hope 2011 is a bumper year for our toothy friends that are doing their best to keep the Chatham seal population under control:lildevl:

Seal: My, what big teeth you have.....
Mr. Whitey: The better to eat you, my dear!