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: Cape Patterns?


bonefishmon
03-22-2011, 09:18 AM
After viewing Pete's creations over and over (thanks Pete!) I spent some time looking in my Cape Cod fly boxes wondering what's missing. Outside of the usual deep eels and baby bunker patterns the thought of herring has eluded me and I need to get back on the vise. It would be kind of neat to see what else is out there. What are your "Go to" patterns guys and could you post photos and tying instructions. The Spring Clave is coming up soon and it should be fun to see what others have favored and the areas in which those patterns excel. For instance, inside Bass River vs. outside on the flats. I know, it's all about the food available at the time but when you can't get a handle on what that food is, what would you throw? Here is one of my favorites tied with Flash N' Slinky called Bear's Bunker. It has served me well over the last two years everywhere.

Phil

juro
03-22-2011, 10:43 AM
Hey Phil - winters almost over eh?

Spring time most fish are willing to eat any fly, with the exception of those stealthily following herring into the rivers, fixed on 5 pound shad, gorging on late May foot-long squid or looking for body temp moderation in cold spells. In general though if it looks edible a spring striper will chomp it.

Summer time is another story, especially for fish in the 36" + class who have seen it all and have been hooked perhaps several times if not more in a lifetime. Then there's consideration for what they're doing at any given tide, the same fish will gulp a 6" sand eel on one phase that will ignore it in another. I can say this small fact is true with hundreds of hours of proof under my wader belt.

The question, in my opinion, is which fly to fling (specific to the scenario) when fickle fish get finicky. (Dr.Seuss could make a good book out this)

bonefishmon
03-22-2011, 11:12 AM
Thanks Juro. It's springtime on the Cape and the guy next to me is hooking fish on every other cast. I am not. He shows me something I've never seen, hands me his pattern and it still doesn't work! It's not always about the fly. It's about how the gut next to me is fishing it. In that case I was instructed to allow the entire intermediate line to be stripped along the bottom. Pay dirt! Switched back to the fly I was using and got instant hookups. While any fly will work during the Clave I'm more interested in seeing what I've never tied. Vise time will keep me busy. More cold days ahead. The vise has been idle. I hope this thread will get some of us back on the tying table. I also hope to have a March striper very soon.

Phil

juro
03-22-2011, 11:22 AM
Well I've said this ad nauseum but Juro's rules of precedence...

1) presence of fish
2) mood of fish
3) presentation
4) fly

in that order, but all are important!

bonefishmon
03-22-2011, 11:58 AM
Good stuff Juro! Back to the thread and #4. If you will be attending the Spring Clave and wish to share fly preferences for those in need, what will be the fly of choice on the end of that tippet? It will be interesting to see what appears before the fly swap.

Phil

boatdrinks
03-22-2011, 01:15 PM
I like to have squid flies if in the rips in spring and early summer on the cape. They'll hit these all season but I especially like them that time of year. also some darker colored sandeel flies for places like bass river and stage. The bait can be really dark colored in the early part of the season.

Dble Haul
03-22-2011, 03:13 PM
Ditto on the squid flies, especially for boat fishermen who can get out to some of the rips like Bishop and Clerks on the south side. Some of those stipers can be holding just under the surface like trout in a stream....an impressive sight for sure!

bonefishmon
03-22-2011, 07:41 PM
That's what I'm talking about. Keep um coming! With pics if possible.

Phil

boatdrinks
03-23-2011, 07:55 AM
Do you fish Bishop and Clerks a lot in the Spring? I've only fished it a couple times but the water temps are perfect there in the spring. I consider running over there a lot but always seem to stay in the harbor or run to Monomoy.





Ditto on the squid flies, especially for boat fishermen who can get out to some of the rips like Bishop and Clerks on the south side. Some of those stipers can be holding just under the surface like trout in a stream....an impressive sight for sure!

Redfisher
03-23-2011, 09:02 AM
Small chartreuse deceivers,clousers and half & halfs work very well in the spring. But I,m sure you knew that already. One of my favorites is a plain old deceiver, (I usually use brown and white or, what else, chartreuse) tied with long, thin hackles. It's not as long as most flat wings but it does have a snakey look when you strip it.

Dan

Jim Miller
03-24-2011, 05:21 AM
Throw in some Herring flys when that bait is around. Some years Adult Bunker are around in abundance too! BIG flys....Big fish!

PEC54
03-24-2011, 10:47 AM
If your refering to what flies to be used around clave time what I use in the waters around the Cape Cod Canal including Barnstable Harbor area are as follows:Mackerel up to 12",Blue back Herring 10"-12",Alewifes 8",Sea Herring 6-8" and Menhaden(Bunker) up to 12" and Sand eels 4-8".Eel flies in the dark during an ebbing tide in the cape cod Bay creeks.:D :hihi:In june if your lucky you can sometimes run into schools of juvi sea herring up to 3-4"any Peanut bunker type fly will match.

PEC54
03-24-2011, 10:54 AM
at one time good size squid flies would be on the list ,unfortunately squid have been scarce along the south shore of the cape in the spring, I used to fish squid flies exclusively from West Falmouth down along Nobska and along all the beaches and salt pond entrances all the way to Hyannis.It's been to many years since this has been a reliable fishery.:frown:

Dble Haul
03-24-2011, 03:09 PM
Do you fish Bishop and Clerks a lot in the Spring? I've only fished it a couple times but the water temps are perfect there in the spring. I consider running over there a lot but always seem to stay in the harbor or run to Monomoy.

Yes, the water warms up there well in the spring and I run out there as part of my usual circuit. I live in CT, but when I have the boat up on the Cape for a few days at that time of year I make a point of checking it out.

bonefishmon
03-25-2011, 08:53 AM
Here is the recipe for tying a pattern that has worked really well for me over the last two seasons. Scroll down to Bear's Bunker and click on the video of my good friend Paul Dinice
in action on the vise. Just a great fly! Easy to tie. Be sure and tie them small and increase hook size and length from there. I add a little Softex or a loop for antifouling.

Phil

http://tightlinesflyfishing.blogspot.com/

bonefishmon
03-26-2011, 11:37 PM
If your refering to what flies to be used around clave time what I use in the waters around the Cape Cod Canal including Barnstable Harbor area are as follows:Mackerel up to 12",Blue back Herring 10"-12",Alewifes 8",Sea Herring 6-8" and Menhaden(Bunker) up to 12" and Sand eels 4-8".Eel flies in the dark during an ebbing tide in the cape cod Bay creeks.:D :hihi:In june if your lucky you can sometimes run into schools of juvi sea herring up to 3-4"any Peanut bunker type fly will match.

Paul,

Thanks for the input on the bigger flies. Can you post a photo or two?

Phil

boatdrinks
03-28-2011, 08:35 AM
Yes, the water warms up there well in the spring and I run out there as part of my usual circuit. I live in CT, but when I have the boat up on the Cape for a few days at that time of year I make a point of checking it out.


Bishop is a place a I want to do more exploring in the beginning and end of the season. I've had two terrible Octobers in a row fishing Monomoy which has made me start thinking that heading west may be the way to go.