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: Big nor'easter + big tides tomorrow

12-25-2010, 07:54 AM
i just saw the CBS weather blog which is predicting cat 1 hurricane winds over the 330 am high tides tomorrow..

Fingers crossed here for new structure on south beach

12-25-2010, 08:02 AM
Monday looks like the stronger blow, but weather underground is only saying 25-30 mph.

I hope it's twice that!

12-25-2010, 08:41 AM
Sorry guys, I meant Monday not tomorrow.

12-25-2010, 09:13 AM
I'd like nothing more than a serious South Beach breach but...
The forcast calls for sustained, substantial NE winds [aka: Nor'Easter]... the EAST facing beaches [Nauset, etc] will take a beating...
while the SOUTH facing beaches [South Beach] will be spared the full forces of surf and surge...
Regarding South Beach breach...
I suspect we'll have to wait for strong SSE / S / SSW winds of distinction...
Wash-overs are common but sustained cuts are quickly filled in by migrating sand bound for High Bank and points beyond...
One thing for sure... CHANGE...
Mother Nature is in charge and has the phinal say...

12-27-2010, 08:57 AM
Coastal Waters From Provincetown Ma To Chatham Ma To Nantucket Ma
Out 20 Nm-

E winds 20 to 25 kt with gusts up to 40 kt... becoming NW 25 to 35 kt with gusts up to 50 kt late this morning and afternoon. Seas 16 to 21 ft...subsiding to 14 to 19 ft this afternoon. Rain this morning...then snow this afternoon. Vsby 1 nm or less...increasing to 1 to 3 nm this afternoon.

NW winds 30 to 35 kt with gusts up to 45 kt. Seas 10 to 15 ft. A chance of snow in the evening. A chance of light freezing spray after midnight.

NW winds 30 to 35 kt...diminishing to 25 to 30 kt in the afternoon. Seas 8 to 13 ft...subsiding to 8 to 11 ft in the afternoon. A chance of light freezing spray in the morning.

12-27-2010, 10:49 AM
Did we get our South beach post Christmas breach present?
If it wasn't 2 1/2 hrs away..I would be there in a flash to see :-)


12-27-2010, 05:35 PM
Talkin' with an Orleans sage earlier today...
East facing beaches [Marconi, CG] got beat up badly... access stairs gone, major erosion, etc, etc...
South facing beaches [as in South Beach] NOT SO MUCH... a "non-event"... so it goes!?
As the NE-N-NW winds came across the beach, waves were nil and hydraulics needed to start and develop a breach were not present...
Once the dust settles, if I get a chance to venture to Minister's or the Refuge, I'll take some pics...

12-27-2010, 06:09 PM
I'll take a ride out on Nauset to see what's up when I get down there next

12-28-2010, 08:23 AM
sounded like a pretty good storm either way. I love watching those storms in the winter.

01-01-2011, 05:15 AM
Hey Pete, two questions...

1/ Is this The Tub?

2/ Is this you? :hihi:

01-01-2011, 08:06 AM
Regarding #1... yes
#2... NOT so much!
I'm the guy experiencing phrozen phace whilst leaning out the window trying not to drop the camera... :whoa:
'47 Cessna tailgragger... well seasoned...

01-01-2011, 08:18 AM
I was at the Light house yesterday for Chatham first night and saw no significant changes....I was there only during the day to walk around.

01-01-2011, 01:53 PM
Regarding #1... yes
#2... NOT so much!
I'm the guy experiencing phrozen phace whilst leaning out the window trying not to drop the camera... :whoa:
'47 Cessna tailgragger... well seasoned...

Ahh, I see now, so long as it's only your phace that's phrozen and not your phericles! :D

01-03-2011, 10:20 AM
Two more storms on the way - Friday and the 11th, which could be a biggie with sw winds.

01-03-2011, 10:47 AM
The new Nauset cut and the south end of North Island have changed noticeably, and Big Girl has changed dramatically as it always does even between tides but looking to the south I could not see much change as John has pointed out. A long walk might reveal something more. I'm sure we'll see a cut happen just a matter of when not if... might be a week or a decade who knows.

I know one thing, happy times will be back to the refuge that summer!

01-03-2011, 03:24 PM
How long before it finally closed did the "Southway" start to show signs of deteriorating?
Was it a slow silting in or did it happen basically in one fishing season? Just curious as from what I can see of photos over the past year or so, its previous location does not look like the most promising place for another permanent breakthru.

Pete 'PopnestBay'

01-03-2011, 04:01 PM
Others will have their reports; but I hung in there but by the end of the second season after the closure you could really tell it was changing and by the third it was more interesting elsewhere. I always felt worst for the impact it had on our friends at Rip Ryder but they seemed to have the seal watch down and JAWS :)

One of the distinct signs that it was the ocean flow that made the inside flats ideal for stripers was the intensity of the fishing at the 'guzzle' where the ocean water would wash over at high tide, every fish for miles was attracted to it. Other areas we used to enjoy constant shots went barren.

Another sign was as the southway was filling in and becoming difficult to navigate the better fishing was concentrated down at the inlet during the summer months. Fish are really good at finding the best habitat available.

It's still good in spring and fall and there are spots where you can get good fish all summer but compared to what it once was it's heartbreaking and the fishing went from the constant surprise of approaching pods to spending all day trying to find any.

We all miss the flyfisherman's playground back there - someday we'll see it again.

01-04-2011, 08:14 AM
wow that little strip at the north end of the tub, between the tub and the ocean, is REALLY skinny. That would help the refuge/tub for sure. I anchored the boat by that spot this summer and walked across. You could almost throw a football from one side to the other. The lighthouse beach looks as thick as it's ever been.

02-07-2011, 06:46 PM
Another "Cross Quarter" passes quietly and the DAZE are predictably getting longer...
'Eiders rafting on Pleasant Bay
the "new" break shrunk a bit but is still phormidable...