MONOMOY INFORMATION PAGE [Archive] - Fly Fishing Forum


06-06-2000, 02:24 PM
Due to confusing nature of BB threads, I am preparing a web page to explain everything in plain english. Al's enhanced signup sheet will be included.

Please check the signup sheet from the webpage to make sure your information is correct. Refresh the page once in a while, it will be getting updated frequently.



06-06-2000, 07:57 PM
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i'm so outta here
06-06-2000, 09:55 PM

Thanks for the great page. How psyched am I?!!

I finally have the bugs worked out of the signup form. Please, everyone, don't hesitate to send me a note if you encounter any problems ( Much thanks to Dugmore & Duncan for the use of the server and development tools.

The sign up form is ready with new South Island options and a place to list your camping gear. We need to pull together the group's plans in a way that makes life easier and the fishing better for all. If you have not signed up, or had trouble signing up in the past, please try again. A clearing of your browser's disk cache may clear up any remaining troubles you are having.

(Netscape: Edit menu, choose 'Preferences' and then click on the 'Advanced' tab and thenon 'Cache'. Internet Explorer: Tools menu, choose 'Internet Options' and click button to Delete Temporary internet files)

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Question: Is it safe to leave stuff on shore if going to the islands?

Answer: Yes, but don't be stupid and leave your cell phone sticking up out of your bag or your lunch waving in the breeze to marauding racoons.

Question: Could I really die out there?

Answer: Yes. When tide turns to incoming start heading toward land (even if the fish are practically jumping into your waders). Bring light weight PFDs if you have them.

Question: Is the fishing really good?

Answer: ??

06-07-2000, 06:00 AM
Fishing's always good... catching varies.

As far as the PFD / safety discussion, I am glad there is a conscientious response. The trick with flats is that they offer a sense of security on the falling tide as you wander far from shore. As long as the tide is falling, you have nothing to worry about. Once the tide starts to flood, the trenches and dips between you and shore become barriers to return.

If you are heading back to mainland soil faster than the encroaching flood tide, you will have no worries. If not, you may be in for a threatening experience.

The dillema is that like sirens from the sea, the stripers rush onto the flats to feast on the bait that comes to feed on the richness of plant and microorganism casualties that occurred during low. The sand eels pop out of the sand to enjoy the rush of cool water, and the mixing of nutrients and current gets things in a stir. If you're knee deep in water with large fish rushing all around you tails slapping and taking the fly vigorously, it's easy not to turn around and realize you are on a sand bar 100 or even 300 yards from solid ground.

Incoming tide on flats is a priviledge reserved for those with boats. It's not worth your life.

BTW - learning to fish the outgoing can be as productive or more productive anyway. It sometimes takes a little more thinking to figure out where the drop-back stations are, and where the slack low holding locations are - but if you know these about a flat you will score and score big.

A perfect example is Joppa. The easiest fishing is at or near dead low, because the fish back down into the trench from the grassy point along the boat moorings in great numbers. While the current rages you need sinking lines and flies that fish can't resist / weighted flies to stop them in their tracks; at slack the conventional retrieve works wonders until the incoming when the fish rush back upriver. If you fish it down to low, you have little to worry about but when the tide comes up you need to meter your time with extreme caution.

Frankly, I have the PFD's for clients. I fish in a way that they do not have to wear them neccessarily, but I carry them just in case. Prevention is the best medicine; the ripcords have never been pulled on them so far. [KOW]