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: Tidal Predictions for Brewsters


Mike Oliver
03-30-2010, 10:41 AM
Using these tables http:/tbone.biol.scedu/tide do I select Barnstaple Harbor Beach Point Cape Cod Bay MA . If so is there much difference to add /subtract for Brewsters.

Thanks

Mike

FredA
03-30-2010, 11:11 AM
Beach point is generally 10 to 15 minutes ahead of brewster flatz. I use sesuit for brewster flats. You can compare at:

http://www.boatma.com/tides/Cape-Cod.html

juro
03-30-2010, 11:12 AM
Use East End Canal + delay for ebb if there is any "N" in the wind direction and it's steady over 15; a smaller delay for flood if there is any "S" in it.

More importantly, get your ass off in time :)

Mike Oliver
03-30-2010, 11:13 AM
Thanks Fred,

Mike

BigDave
03-30-2010, 02:13 PM
Sesuit and look out for the N wind.

Mike Oliver
03-30-2010, 02:32 PM
I got to love you Guys two say Sesuit one east canal I am searching for the pin after I finish typing this. LOL

Juro by getting my ass out of there, last time out from Old Saints we started the hike back one hour after low. No wind that day to push in tide faster. I have left it later I won't say by how much in case you start looking around for Undertakers. What would be the general consenses of when to get out of there if no North wind is blowing and it's say a middle sized tide not a spring. Just an indication would be fine not asking you to hang your hat on your possible reply.

Thanks Guys

Mike

Guernseybass
03-30-2010, 04:12 PM
I use sesuit at boatma .

flydoc
03-30-2010, 04:47 PM
I use the Wellfleet tides. May be off from Brewster by 10-15 min, but that's not that far off when you think about it.

juro
03-30-2010, 08:04 PM
Depends on how well you know the routes. If you do you can stretch 1.5-2 hours of flood; if you don't well wear swim trunks and leave your wallet and cell phones in the car.

Each year the routes are different, it takes time to learn them. Each spot has different routes, which are different every year.

This is one way a guide earns his keep out there.

I got to love you Guys two say Sesuit one east canal I am searching for the pin after I finish typing this. LOL

Juro by getting my ass out of there, last time out from Old Saints we started the hike back one hour after low. No wind that day to push in tide faster. I have left it later I won't say by how much in case you start looking around for Undertakers. What would be the general consenses of when to get out of there if no North wind is blowing and it's say a middle sized tide not a spring. Just an indication would be fine not asking you to hang your hat on your possible reply.

Thanks Guys

Mike

Mike Oliver
03-31-2010, 04:33 AM
Thanks for the suggestions Juro. I do not know the routes of course having been away for at least a year ,so it's all to try and learn again. This means of course that I have to allow for a greater safety margin, which I will do. First couple of trips I will probably wear my wet suit to just in case. It is not the silver bullet safety wise but is better than getting caught out in chest waders.

Mike

juro
03-31-2010, 07:34 AM
Outgoing tides can be good, sometimes excellent - and safe. While learning the incoming situations you can go out well before the low and enjoy a long outing. But nothing beats the drum like the flood, just like bonefish.

FredA
03-31-2010, 09:56 AM
Mid May through June I love the outgoing. One of my favorites is a dropping tide where the high was pre dawn. Hunt the troughs out with the tide and eventually you run into fish both droppin out and pushing, frequently tailing. I always love the flood too but fishing the flood doesn't become critical to happiness 'til things warm up in july. Just my opinion.

BigDave
03-31-2010, 10:34 AM
I like the drop as well. There can be times in the spring when you are surrounded by the most disinterested bass in the world and I don't think it has anything to do with fly/leader/presentation. I think they come up there to take a snooze and warm up. Totally different game than Monomoy is (was).

Mike Oliver
03-31-2010, 10:42 AM
Thanks guys this is all grist to the mill and feeding my desire no end. Today a friend a Brit who has been secretly coming over for 25 years sent me a couple of samples of his buoyant flies made so with a taperd foam head. He has used Artic Marbled Fox Hair for the wings and he tells me this stuff does not knot up like artic sheap hair. It is very mobile and comes in decent lengths. Needless to say the sellar of such hair got an order within minutes of discovering what Geoff makes his flies from.
Trying to keep the lid on a steaming pot is not easy.

Cheers

Mike

Alun
04-01-2010, 02:07 AM
Thanks guys this is all grist to the mill and feeding my desire no end. Today a friend a Brit who has been secretly coming over for 25 years sent me a couple of samples of his buoyant flies made so with a taperd foam head. He has used Artic Marbled Fox Hair for the wings and he tells me this stuff does not knot up like artic sheap hair. It is very mobile and comes in decent lengths. Needless to say the sellar of such hair got an order within minutes of discovering what Geoff makes his flies from.
Trying to keep the lid on a steaming pot is not easy.

Cheers

Mike

If you are getting it from a "foxy" lady in Frodsham you could do worse than ask her to send you some of her cashmere goat hair too, it's lovely stuff very fine long and translucent too

Mike Oliver
04-01-2010, 04:24 AM
Alun,

The world gets smaller by the day. Indeed I do and from a Lady called Sue. I can't post details of the business here but I guess juro would not mind if anyone was interested in knowing more to send me a PM. I would love to buy some Cashmere hair, but Alun funds are dissapearing faster than the water down the plug hole of an old metal bath mate. I mitigated my costs by only buying 1/4 tails still came to nigh on 40.

This is my first experince of tying with softer hair and the quality of it on the flies GH sent me is very good. Iwill try and photograph them and post up his buoyant flies.

Will you be on the Cape this spring Alun?

Mike

Alun
04-01-2010, 05:17 AM
Fox hair has about 5x as much underfur as guard hair compared to bucktail so you need to be fairly ruthless, it's nice stuff, good for collars on decievers too much softer than buck tail, the very crafty Sue sent me some samples of cashmere goat with my last order, I fell for her marketing like a sucker, if you pm your adress I'll send you some, i think you'll like it.

If you asked me a week ago about being stateside in the spring it would have been a not too likely, I have the last week in may off work, but it's half term and domestic control hasn't so by default I'm child minding, I do have a week in late june which may yet get used for striper hunting, It'll certainly be used for fishing somewhere,

Mike Oliver
04-01-2010, 05:34 AM
Alun that Sue is quite something is she not. I bet it was so easy for her to get you to accept some samples. She tells me that she always adds some stuff free with every order. I am waiting by the door for mine to arrive this morning. Thanks for the tips re the underfur. Up until now Bucktail and to a lessor degree Super hair has been my normal tying material for saltwater flies. This new adventure into softer naturals should allow me to now start and learn how to tye up Bunker type patterns. My collection of dead animals as the females in my family calls them is growing at a pretty alarming rate. By the time I get to use the stuff I already have I reckon I would be about 110 years of age. Is this normal.

Mike