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: New England Gear Set-Up question - which size rods to own?


GreenSailMan
03-29-2010, 09:11 AM
Hi All,
I'm new here and this is my first thread at the forum. I've been reading a lot of the content on this site and enjoying it very much. I look forward to participating in this community.

My question involves choosing the right mix of rods for fishing in Southern New England, primarily the estuaries and flats of Western Long Island Sound for stripers, blues, and albies. I fish primarily by wading, sometimes on my friend's boat.

Somehow I've ended up with a GLoomis CC GLX 7 wt, an Orvis T3 8 wt that I don't like very much, a Sage Xi2 9 wt, and a TFO jim teeny 10 wt. Mostly because I stumbled through the learning curve on gear and that T3 never quite did what I wanted it to do.

Which of the rods would you keep and do you have a general recommendation for a two- to three-rod setup for new england? I'm planning on consolidating my gear, keeping two rods and selling the rest.

I've read many folks (Tabory, Mitchell, Caolo, etc.) that recommend a 6:8:10 approach...I'm wondering if I can get away with a 7wt and 9 wt setup? Mostly because those are the two nicest rods in the quiver, although I worry i will never find the perfect conditions to use that 7 wt...

Appreciate any and all thoughts as I obsess over these things while waiting for the fish to show up...

GSM :Eyecrazy:

juro
03-29-2010, 09:43 AM
I see where they're coming from but I only use (need) a 9wt for striper fishing the flats and estuaries, then jump up to a two-hander for big rips and surf conditions (try searching for past posts).

Most prefer a 'fast' action, however I tend to go with a rod that is not stiff because sight-fishing reaction time with a short line and a stiff rod is crap. Most modern rods can also be loaded for distance with a good clean casting motion and a double haul even if they are sweet-loading at short distances, e.g. not real stiff.

Many of the fish I target on the flats are too big for a 6 or 7wt. 10wt's a better fish fighting tool but 9wt is a happy medium (at least for my physical characteristics). If you're built like Arnold I would think a 10wt would be light, and if you're taking your lady friend out an 8 or 7wt would be kinder.

When you fish a two-hander even 11 or 12wt rods where over 550 grains feels completely manageable. I prefer something around 11ft after over a decade of experimentation and rod design work. That's a whole 'nuther subject.

Bottom line: My opinion for what it's worth is you need only one rod - a good 9wt.

GreenSailMan
03-29-2010, 01:18 PM
When you fish a two-hander even 11 or 12wt rods where over 550 grains feels completely manageable. I prefer something around 11ft after over a decade of experimentation and rod design work. That's a whole 'nuther subject.


Thanks for the thoughts Juro. I'm actually glad you bring the subject of two-handed rods up...I took advantage of a sale on Albright equipment and got their 14' 9/10 GP series spey rod. I matched it with a 650gr - 27' Rio Skagit Flight Shooting Head, one of Rio's 15' Skagit/Spey Intermediate 10 wt (150 gr) Sink Tips and an Airflo Ridge Running line.

I am brand new to two-handed casting but tried some overhead casting and some snake rolls and I'm not entirely sure I have the right equipment. Do I need to add some cheaters or something to the line to make it feel better when I'm casting or did I get the wrong rod?

juro
03-29-2010, 01:42 PM
I'm thinking of reviving the Nor'easter Spey Clave that I started several years ago. I'd recommend that you bring your set-up along if you can make it. We can check out the combination and most likely there be other lines for you to try before you buy.

As far as striper fishing, I don't like anything longer than 11 or 12ft max. Striper fishing is based on a strip retrieve / wading far from shore. It's awkward at best putting action on a fly unless you are swinging in accomodating situations, and if you're far from shore landing a good fish with a big fulcrum is a pain.

Stay tuned.

nmbrowncom
03-30-2010, 03:02 AM
while i generally agree that a 9 wt is the best all around rod for stripers in this area, it is worth considering keeping the 7 wt in the arsenal for early season fishing which tend to be the smaller fish. likewise a big gun (10 wt) for both fall and false albacore fishing could be handy as well.

vtloon
03-30-2010, 09:33 AM
If looking at an alternating size approach, I think a 7-9-11 gives you a more useful quiver then a 8-10-12. But I would look hard at having the 11 equivalent be a 9/10 or 10/11 Switch rod of 10'6" or 11' length. This is true for boat or shore.

That's for economy; for fun have several of every weight.