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02-01-2010, 07:31 AM
Article on menhaden and striped bass... read and discuss

02-01-2010, 09:22 AM
Excellent post with good detailed information.

Interesting to note that there has been a lot of chatter about the management of menhaden in VA which is done via a congressional level committee rather than by the scientific based VA Dept of Fish and Wildlife as it is for every other state. Also noted was that many of the members of that congressional level committee receive funds from Omega Protein, a large menhaden processing company from Texas. There was an effort to move the management of the species from the committee to the DFW but it was recently voted down.

02-01-2010, 10:56 AM
Great post. Here's a link to more collateral (with links to furthur stuff).

Gseries, your post on the mass board of SOL was spot on. I'm sure the problems of the Cheasepeake are multi-faceted but the baitfish situation must be a strong tipping point.

02-02-2010, 10:57 AM
I think this article presents one of the better explainations for the recent decline in the striper fishery. It amazes me to some extent but even more so it's worrisome to me that ASMFC does not look at management more holistically.

The question now is, what can we do about it?

02-03-2010, 11:18 AM
I spent almost an hour on the phone talking to Jim Price, the author of the study and President of the Chesapeake Bay Ecological Foundation. I wish this forum talked more about striper conservation, but for anyone who is interested, I encourage you to give him a call or send him an email. He is looking for support from northern states to push through initiatives aimed at improving the menhaden population and ultimately the striper population. His studies detail not only the need to conserve each species but more importantly the need to have the right balance of year classes of prey and predator. He believe the striper has been forced to change it's diet because of the current state of menhaden and that is why there are fewer fish closer to shore. In the end, he believes that what will occur is a trophic cascade which is more or less a crash of multiple species, stipers, menhaden, and bay anchovies unless action is taken soon.

02-06-2010, 02:14 PM
Frustrating. The "wicked huge" disconnect between the bio mass data and action by ASFMC. And, to boot, Mass still at 2 fish 28". Be prepared for another year of catching less and smaller fish. I still kill between 0 and 1 fish per year.


02-06-2010, 03:52 PM
I moved from Britain to Canada (Newfoundland) in 1975. I remember getting into a conversation with an old-timer on the dock in St John's, looking at some of the foreign boats that were fishing caplin for fishmeal ("reduction" - love that euphemism!).
"I tells yer, bye, if they keeps taking all ther caplin ther won't be any left for the cod t'eat".
Well, we know what happened to the Newfoundland cod fishery! It wasn't just overfishing the cod; they took out the middle of the food chain. The same thing is happening around the British Isles where sandeels are being fished out to feed farmed salmon and pigs and seabird chicks are dying of starvation.
For the (theoretically) most intelligent species on earth, we can be awfully stupid.

Sad, sad, sad!

02-07-2010, 09:47 AM
It's fairly obvious when you think about it - interfering with nature upsets the balance and the 'knock-on' effect will always show up somewhere. 9wt has a valid point about human stupidity!