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10-07-2009, 11:13 AM
Hey I am thinking about the soon-to-arrive bitter cold, snow, slush, ugh and how nice it's going to be to escape right in the thick of it! It's a good time to start the planning process.

Our friend Felton Rolle has just built a spankin' new place on Acklins and I'm putting a group together from the FORUM to make a deep winter sanity trip down there...

White crushed coral sands and turquiose waters, mangroves and bonefish - adjacent to bluewater wahoo and dorado with lobster and cocktails waiting for dinner at the lodge! Beat the crap out of shoveling :)

Who's in?

10-07-2009, 12:32 PM
I could be coerced into taking a trip.... if the dates fit my schedule..

Keep me in the loop....

Will only go if JimS does the driving and FredA tags along !!!

10-07-2009, 12:48 PM
Name the day we leave::smokin:

10-07-2009, 01:35 PM
Keep me in the loop. Pictures of Felton's new place looks like a winner.

10-07-2009, 01:35 PM
Im interested to see more details abotu the accomodations, $$, etc...

10-07-2009, 02:32 PM
At this point it doesn't look good. Wife wants to go somewhere warm on vacation and I only get 5 weeks of vacation time.

10-07-2009, 03:36 PM
Definately interested if I can make the dates work.

10-07-2009, 03:55 PM
Wouldn't mind returning. Missed it last year.

10-09-2009, 09:15 AM
I'd like some more info on it. I need to get away.

10-09-2009, 01:17 PM
I'd potentially be interested in returning to Acklins. Missed it last year. Need more info on dates, details, dollars. I assume you are talking about a week long venture.

10-10-2009, 06:49 PM
Seems like we have the makings of a great group....

Juro what is the next step....a lot of folks need more details like costs and possible dates etc...

I would be happy to help on research or whatever you need...

Let's make it happen

10-10-2009, 07:16 PM
You know timing is everything, I felt a little tingle down my spine knew it had to be talk of Acklins. Keep me in the loop!!!

10-10-2009, 09:27 PM
Hmm... It seems like this forum has become a closed society centered around southeast New England coastal fishing and where we're going during the Winter. By "closed society" I mean the same group of anglers rehashing the same old questions/events. There's not a lot of comment here considering the WORLDWIDE SCOPE OF FLYFISHING unless it's by the same old group of contributors. You've lost the freshwater crowd and anyone else regardless of where they fish. I once was told in this forum that it was the "Striped Bass" forum. Enough said, I guess. Either shrink this down to what it is or make an effort to expand it.

10-11-2009, 09:38 AM
Poster By Millerbrown on 3-16-2009 --In the spring clave thread:

"It's been a while since I've visited this forum. Do you guys have any idea what you sound like?? This is like a secret society. Why don't you just get off the web and just email each other with all your personal chatter! Someone new would have no idea what you are talking about.

Just an observation."

Poster by Millerbrown on 9-27-2008 - Forum posting

"I used to subscribe to a half dozen fly fishing magazines just a few years ago but let all but two go because most of what I read was redundant. Just a new angle on old subjects. I would guess that "forums" become much of the "same old same old". What's worse is that forums have a tendency to become nothing more than conversations between "friends". Also, there's nothing worse then to see a good subject digress to "off topic" chit chat. That's what happens here and at other like venues. That static should be left to PM's.

That's it for starters."

Interestingly enough Mr. Millerbrown signed onto the Clave dinner join in with the "friends" I suppose.

This thread is on the Bonefish forum with responders from all over the country and some foreign........sounds like MB has a "secret" agenda in posting that remark here. Perhaps, maybe...something about "southeast New England coastal fishing"?????:roll: :confused:

10-11-2009, 09:54 AM
Forums, communities, "societies" et. al. - are simply what you make them.

If you choose to stand along the sidelines and comment on how poorly the team is playing, you're not adding any value. However if you train, perfect your game and jump onto the field then you're making something happen.

We are all empowered with the ability to make great posts. **** or get off the pot as the saying goes. Have a nice day! :hihi:

10-11-2009, 10:51 AM
I was going to get defensive about his comments but I started thinking.

A few years back I signed up for one of the Acklins trips...didn't know anyone and was welcomed by all....made some new "friends" Juro , JimS and FredA.

When I visited Chatham a while back ... JimS and FredA took me around and showed me some spots and let me tag one point let me take the first shot at some fish on the "friendly" is that...

Another time in Chatham I bumped into Paxton(Ron) and though I didn't really know him we fished the day together and he is a fine person to know.

What I am trying to say is most of my immediate friends do not fish and it is great for me to exchange and learn fly fishing info with the folks on this forum and rather than plan winter trips solo I can share expenses and the experience.

I never find them to be exclusive...quite the contrary.... on other sites I see certain folks know each other and exchange funny comments to and about each other and I don't find I am left out ... I enjoy the posts..

The folks here have been great to me and I hope I have given back a bit.

10-12-2009, 01:21 AM
You know I'm there. I know the temptation is HUGE for this thread to go off on a tangent..... Lets keep the Acklins talk going.

MB You're welcome to participate (online or in person) anytime. If you don't like the way we communicate your also welcome to go someplace else.

10-12-2009, 04:35 PM
Hmm... It seems like this forum has become a closed society centered around southeast New England coastal fishing and where we're going during the Winter. By "closed society" I mean the same group of anglers rehashing the same old questions/events. There's not a lot of comment here considering the WORLDWIDE SCOPE OF FLYFISHING unless it's by the same old group of contributors. You've lost the freshwater crowd and anyone else regardless of where they fish. I once was told in this forum that it was the "Striped Bass" forum. Enough said, I guess. Either shrink this down to what it is or make an effort to expand it.

Got no clue what you're talking about. This forum is a forum where I at least got info om some things and I don't think there's much more forums this open for real outsiders like a native Aruban Dutchman, a Danish Bonebum, a French Marketing dude etcetera. If you have a nicer forum, pm me about it. I am curious. But it doesn't make a forum worse if there are some guys who know each other and contribute their knowledge.
In fact, each forum has it's own hero's and for now you are not on that list i suppose:tsk_tsk:

10-12-2009, 05:16 PM
I think we should get back to the trip discussion. The more we give to this the more enjoyment the poster gets...seeing back and watching the "developments". ...and getting the attention pathologically will simply delete all the threads if it continues and leave the last ones prior to the baiting post.

10-12-2009, 06:12 PM
Sorry John I don't agree with you.
Please don't delete messages on this thread I find them very valid.

You are reacting to conflict with censorship. Something that, at least, Europeans are not used to.

I find the solidarity (a european expression) great and that board members are pushed by a negative outsider to express their feelings that this board is an interesting place.

I personally have met a lot of people through this board and I feel that it has had a great impact on my life.
I feel that I have got to know a lot of very interesting people, a large number of them I would like to call friends. without this board that would not have happened.

Going back to the main part of this discussion, about Acklins, I met some of my best friends there, through a trip sort of organized by this board.

Juro you do a great job. I am delighted to be part of the team. If an infrequent poster needs to remind us of this then thank you millerbrown.

However I agree with my friend Dave17 if you don't like it then, I'll not use the Anglo saxon but the biblical, "go forth and procreate".

10-12-2009, 06:48 PM
Ok Pete..But as a trained lawyer I am well aware of what censorship is here in this country and have had experience is such matters .There is no state action here and ANY "groups" can determine what they want on the board. Many will not allow trolling or baiting and that has nothing to do with "censorship". That being said I would not unilaterally delete threads.... But it was done as a warning that I DO NOT expect the thread to evolve into a shouting match going forward. To simplify (as an extreme example)... a Parents website can choose not to have pornography on it's website, just as any web site can determine that baiting and trolling does not help further healthy discussion....that post was baiting and there is a "pattern" of similar activity. You brought up "censorship" and should not miscontrue what real censorship is and what free speach means... I know clearly what it means here. I will leave it at that and I am certain I am reaching NO conflict with "censorship".

10-12-2009, 06:54 PM
calm down guys. it isn't even winter yet and the skin is already much too thin. remember, it's fishing- supposed to be fun.

i've never done aklins, and wouldn't mind giving it a go although i'm told by others that the fish are very small. is that accurate?

btw, for a number of years when i went to the bahamas for bonefish i would first stop in georgia for a few days of trophy trout fishing. great combo-days of huge trout in the georgia mountains immediately followed by bonefish on the flats-something for most everyone. if that idea appeals to anyone, then perhaps we can coordinate things. i'd be happy to handle the georgia part.

10-12-2009, 07:00 PM
Thanks Neal...I was hoping the thread would not evolve into what it was. It is about Aklins.

10-12-2009, 07:15 PM
What is the new place that folks are headed to?

10-12-2009, 08:45 PM
millerbrown should find another forum if he does not like this one.

acklins dreaming!!!

10-14-2009, 03:25 PM
BLAH, BLAH, BLAH. Talk about fishing. I mean, talk about fishing, please.

10-14-2009, 03:59 PM

I'd be happy to help on the Georgia end as well. Early spring in the mountains is beautiful down here. Our weather usually breaks in mid February (although 50 degree winters are more than bearable). In fact, I recall noticing trees in full bloom in past years as I've driven to the airport to fly to Acklins. Early March gives one the opportunity to fish for numbers in delayed harvest areas as well as target large wild fish in the tailwaters.

I need a bonefishing fix soon. Thinking about jumping a plane to the islands for a long weekend.

10-14-2009, 04:12 PM
Another thought....

Heading down to the Georgia coast for the first time, in a couple of weeks. Guys from the FishHawk (fly shop in Atlanta) invited me down for DIY Redfishing. It's only three and a half hours away from the city. Hopefully after this introduction I'll be able to dial this in over the winter. Maybe another option if people are interested and don't want to have to pack both saltwater and trout gear.

10-14-2009, 04:32 PM
In regards to fish size on Acklins...

Yes I would say the average fish is smaller than those found on some of the northern more islands of the Bahamas. There are exceptions and we have all seen some enormous bones on the flats there. Permit seem to be fairly abundant. We have not had any luck but every year the guys on the island (Bob B and company) are putting together the pieces of the puzzle and getting better at targeting and catching these guys.

To me, the draw of Acklins is a combination of the sheer number of fish, the incredible people on the island, truly underfished flats, and the rewarding experience of going to an outpost location with the other great members of this board.

This link will give you an idea of fish size and variety on the island:

and here is my little Acklins video, again, that tries to capture the experience:

10-14-2009, 07:30 PM
Hey, that vid wouldn't show up for me. I could HEAR it, just couldn't see it. Anyone else have that? Is that a firefox thing?

10-14-2009, 08:18 PM
nice pics.

but the video had only sound, as Bjorn said.

10-14-2009, 10:56 PM
Huh, I'll take a look.

10-16-2009, 09:40 AM
So anyway on topic -

Acklins has plenty of big bones. However, it also has ridiculous numbers of average sized bones which tend to attract your attention. In fact they will push around in schools so large they make pressure wakes you can see for 100 yards and there is no one else fishing them but you and your buddies.

The next time I go I am going to fish the middle 3 days for big bones only. I can honestly say that I did not spend more than 2-3 hours targeting them in all of the times I've been there, even though I know when and where and can probably find even more such locales by thinking that way.

And of the groups I've gone with, everyone else spent even less time targeting them because they were having so much fun catching average sized bones.

But they're there, definitely.

10-18-2009, 06:46 PM
If I may gentlemen, and I say this because I trust in your thoughtfullness.
Millerbrown you are right, on a certain level this can seem like a very "exclusive" club at times. It can also be very intimidateing as a person from the "outside" looking in. That stated, I also think we may be getting exculsivity confused with passion. There is so much knowledge and experiance here, it is hard not to be overwelmed. And to our resident experts,we must keep in mind it's very easy to skip steps when addressing issuses we are familiar with. MB I will tell you this, I personallly, came to this site on numerous occasions with little or nothing to offer and left with more than I could ever expect.
I hope you don't give up on us and I would suggest if you don't get your answer addressed, simply ask again. We are all fighting the same "good" fight.

OK, big bones I'm in!

10-18-2009, 09:04 PM
Most of us have ask that this thread stay on we get one that asks to recharge it "asking again"....That is very bad advice. Acklins. Acklins, Acklins...At this point I would suggest that those who want to discus 'elitism" and other such stuff should set up a separate crying Thread and keep this one on target. That would be reasonable.

10-19-2009, 01:16 PM
I have my ticket to Nassau for 1/26 but haven't picked an island to fish yet.

cc charlie
10-19-2009, 02:17 PM
Make sure you hit the Fish Fry...............Yum

CC Charlie

10-19-2009, 05:33 PM
I'll most likely go to Eleuthera in which case the Fish Fry will be on the agenda!

10-29-2009, 02:15 PM
Already have plans for my trip down there with my 7 year old son and perhaps father in tow as well.

As far as closed knit groups go, I don't really know any of you guys personally but accross the board people here are helpful. Years ago Frank, from Nahant, gave me more info on Eleuthera than I could ever digest or use in one trip. It was incredibly nice of him to do it and it has helped me and a select few other people over the years. Jim Miller, for example, benefitted from it and later when I needed some help on something Jim was nice enough to send me some flies to use. All you've got to do it put it out there and people usually respond well. Good will begets good will.

Personally, I think you'll find better fishing and accomodateions on Eleuthera!:biggrin:

11-09-2009, 01:49 PM
Have you set a date with the Reverend? I've been wanting to do this with you guys for years but the dates did not workout. I cannot do the third week in March. Will this be another DIY trip with a little guiding mixed in? If so I'm in! A fully guided week may be beyond my reach although I'm sure it's well worth the expense. I usually fly out of Providence but Boston is doable if I can join someone there and fly back at the same time. The warmth of the southern Bahamas with my Forum friends in the middle of winter....the sound of a reel spinning endlessly.......a bone of any size to my hand............and I'm healed again.
Thanks Juro for getting this started. Ridiculously good fishing to all!!!!!!


11-12-2009, 03:28 AM
Phil, no firm date yet but working on that. I'll definitely keep all posted. Looks like I am pretty locked in to being around New England until after the holidays (occupational hazard) in fact I didnt make a fall trip this year at all so I am really looking forward to a winter escape.

11-19-2009, 08:28 PM
Juro: I met you guys on the flight back from Acklins in 2006. I was at Grey's Point... Keep me in the loop. I have been to Andros the past three years. I am itching to get back to Acklins for my first DIY trip. Keep me in the loop.

11-20-2009, 07:08 PM
interesting thread, a question if I may ?

I saw the comment about large pods or small fish - so do you guys fish big pods (30-40 fish) differently to the small pods of fish ?

I found the big pods too skitterish and very difficult to anticipate the direction of their feeding. I only got a couple of hook ups in 5 or 6 days of trying these large pods.



11-25-2009, 11:51 AM
I will monitor this thread as well. some of that first time home buyer tax rebate MIGHT need to be diverted to chasing bonefish...

11-25-2009, 01:50 PM
interesting thread, a question if I may ?

I saw the comment about large pods or small fish - so do you guys fish big pods (30-40 fish) differently to the small pods of fish ?

I found the big pods too skitterish and very difficult to anticipate the direction of their feeding. I only got a couple of hook ups in 5 or 6 days of trying these large pods.



Hey Mark
30-40 fish is not a big pod.
You can find schools of hundreds and even thousands of fish.

With general bonefish behavior if they are packed together and are moving then they will not normally take as they are probably spooked.

When they are relaxed then they tend to spread out and start feeding and therefore not move so much.


11-25-2009, 01:53 PM
I am also getting a little restless.:frown:
I have no trips planned at all.:frown:

I need something to look forward to.:lildevl:

If anyone is interested in a trip sometime in January or early February then let's get planning. It is only a few weeks away.

11-26-2009, 09:23 AM
Nute - I was inspired by your story of how your father made a go of it with your family on East Caicos upon retiring from the air force and built your home in the structure that has now become the East Caicos schoolhouse. I look forward to a DIY adventure in late winter with you.

Pete - DEFINITELY let's invade an island with this mottley crew of ours ;)

11-26-2009, 09:39 AM
I have just heard that Acklins Island Lodge has closed due to lack of interest.
Does this mean that there are more areas available and that DIY is not as frowned on as before?
Does anyone know what has happened to Bob?

11-26-2009, 01:53 PM
I believe AIL closed several months ago, at least that is what I heard from people on Acklins. The manager, Les Knowles, who was a hell of a cook and an interesting guy, passed away a while back, which may have had something to do with it.

I have never had a problem with DIY there, as was discussed in another post here some time ago.

AIL lodge mostly fished the areas around snug corner, via flats boats, and also some down south, in the area where I believe Juro's group has gone before. The area around snug corner is vast and with a boat you will not be near any DIY anglers if you don't want to be.

The last year or two there have not been too many anglers where I fish, up north, while staying at Chester's Inn. It's a great location with bonefish out your door, plus they have bikes and kayaks, and you can rent a truck if you need it, which we usually do. Gives you access to more areas than you could fish in a week up there.

Have not heard from Bob at all. And don't know what is up with Felton's new place.

Going down to Chester's MArch 13 for a week. Trying to fit another one in directly after that as we have filled the whole lodge up. (holds 6 anglers)

Anyone interested in going from the 20-27 of March?

11-27-2009, 12:42 AM
Hi guys! Hello Pete. Thanks for the concern. Still working hard. About ready to make another 'declaration.'

Stay tune!!


12-01-2009, 08:34 AM
Fist snow of the year here today in Western new York. It has got me thinking about winter trips in the tropics.

some pics from Acklins, for those of you going in 2010.

12-01-2009, 09:29 AM
Hey Vince,
I'll look you up during your March trip. I'm sure I'll run into you guys, I'm staying up the road from you a bit towards LB. Maybe we can coordinate where we fish this time to avoid a repeat of last year.


12-01-2009, 01:55 PM
Hopefully we'll see you there--stop by for a beer-you are right down the road.

And we'll try not to get in your way this year!

12-02-2009, 11:44 AM
First come first served in my book and you were there first! I leave all my worries back at logan-none make to the Island. You're definitely on for the beer.

Tight lines and safe travels until then,


12-09-2009, 07:41 AM
cold, stormy weather up north = soothing tropical pics

12-10-2009, 01:02 PM
Vince, beautiful pictures of the tropics while I'm sitting here with frozen water pipes and no shower might just fit the text book definition of torture. If I actually knew any secrets I'd be ready to spill them right now.

About a month and I board a plane for Grand Bahama. Can't wait.

12-16-2009, 02:27 PM
Freezing cold here today in Western NY.

A little nice here:

01-06-2010, 08:40 AM
Just booked my trip with Vince to Acklins for Feb 13-20. Thanks a lot for the help so far Vince and look forward to finding out more about the island and the fishing! I've been shopping for gear already, need to stop before I buy too much!

01-06-2010, 05:44 PM
Jim, here is your home for the week. During the right tides, bones are tailing out front!

better view of flats out front

Your evening view across the flats out front. Can't wait 'til I'm there.

01-26-2010, 11:20 AM
OK -

Let's get a head count for a trip late Feb / early March... who's interested in a virgin voyage to Felton's new palace?

01-26-2010, 12:50 PM
I could be talked into a trip...please keep me in the loop

01-26-2010, 01:14 PM
A strong possibility!


01-26-2010, 01:31 PM
Would really love to return, but already committed to other trips. I'll get back though.

01-27-2010, 06:53 AM
I am interested but I need to know the exact dates soon as I will need to book a lot of flights.

01-27-2010, 10:31 AM
I'm definitely interested in returning to Acklins. However, February is not feasible for me, though almost all of March is open. I assume you are contemplating a one week stay.
I would suggest travel to and from Nassau on Tuesday/Wednesday, rather than Friday/Saturday, as it may be less of a hassle and a bit less expensive. Would a charter flight (round trip) from Florida (Fort Lauderdale) to Acklins make any sense for a group?
Please keep me informed.
Thanks. GMflyfish

01-28-2010, 09:21 AM
The idea of Wed - wed sounds good.
The last time I was there there were big problems with luggage etc. as the plane was full of anglers on the saturday.

How about getting some dates together.
How is March 3 - 10?


01-28-2010, 09:30 AM
I hope you guys make it down!

I'll be there March 8-20. If you come then we can have a beer or two, or three one evening.

01-28-2010, 10:18 AM
3-10 or the 10-17th work for me.

01-28-2010, 05:20 PM
Just spoke to Bill K. and he told me you were still planning a trip to Acklins.
Cabin fever taking hold and I'm ready for the tropics. I'm not sure you
remember me but you gave me some secret gps coordinates to one of your
favorite bass haunts 2 summers ago. You'll be pleased to hear the fish were
right where you said but we could only fool 2 of them. Thank you.
I've also been talking to Vince T., but so far I'm a single and can't get any one to join me. Would seriously consider joining your group(if you'd have me) if there is any room. Early March is when I want to go, any cost estimates available yet?
Bob Mead

01-28-2010, 05:56 PM
The Wed-Wed dates of 10-17March would work better for me than the prior week. Actually need to travel to Nassau on Tuesday for the early flight Wednesday.
With enough of a group it might pay to investigate a charter flight to Spring Point from and to Florida. I do not have any leads on that, but know it has been done to some of the Bahamas islands.
Will there be some approximate cost figures and other details available soon?

02-01-2010, 08:33 AM
OK so wed-wed first or second week March it is.

Who's in?

02-01-2010, 11:59 AM
I can do either but the second week is probably better.

02-01-2010, 03:59 PM
I'm in for either week (3-10 or 10-17). The airfare for Nassau to Acklins on Bahamas Air is $234 RT and you can get from Ft Lauderdale to Nassau on Jet Blue for $110 RT. I believe a charter from Ft. Lauderdale will be at least $1000-1200 RT per person. This is a twin engine turbo prop max. 6 people and there are several
more options for a larger plane(max 9 people) at roughly the same cost. Even if you factor in the overnight hotel charges the night before in Nassau its appears to be much cheaper going commercial.
I'd like to pick a date ASAP so I can complete my other reservations.
Bob M.

02-01-2010, 05:38 PM
Nassau to Acklins flight for Wednesday...

Leaving on Wednesday, 10 March 10
Nassau , BS (NAS) to Springpoint , BS (AXP)
Depart: 08:30 AM Arrive: 10:20 AM
1 Stop / UP 402
Cabin: Economy / De Havilland DHC-8 Dash 8

Returning on Wednesday, 17 March 10
Springpoint , BS (AXP) to Nassau , BS (NAS)
Depart: 10:40 AM
Arrive: 11:55 AM
Non-Stop / UP 402
Cabin: Economy / De Havilland DHC-8 Dash 8

Nassau lodging - $50 or so / one night (we have a regular spot)

02-01-2010, 08:44 PM
I'm very interested in going to Acklins Is. Tied up until near the end of February, however, so the first week 3-10 Mar is nearly impossible for me. I could do the 10-17th of March, with travel to NAS on Tuesday, 9th.
Is this venture without guides, optional guides? 100% wading? Bonefish and not much else? Any vehicles involved or fish right around the place? Two (or more) per room? All meals included? Approximate cost? Transportation from and to Spring Point airport?
On previous trips we've stayed at Orange Hill Inn in Nassau - relatively convenient. Guess you have a place in mind.

02-01-2010, 09:43 PM
Orange Hill is the best option if available. Getting details - to be announced shortly.

02-02-2010, 09:16 AM
Hey Juro,
I'll be getting off the plane in Acklins as you're getting on it. It will at least give me a chance to say hi for a minute!

Enjoy Felton's place, it looks awesome.


02-03-2010, 06:24 AM
Doesn't seem to be a lot of interest.

02-03-2010, 09:43 PM
I have been hanging out in the background on this thread assuming that a bunch of you regulars who have gone to Acklins together before would be jumping in. If that is not panning out and there is room for a new body in the group, I could do the time period that Juro is talking about. I have been in the process of working on a trip to Grand Bahama again, but this looks like it could be a lot more rewarding--though the previous talk about "death marches" and all that sounds a bit intimidating to this old fart.


02-05-2010, 01:33 PM
Only one more week and I take off for Acklins! :D