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: Clear Intermediates?

06-20-2000, 11:50 AM
Guys, I'm coming to the realiztion that it's time to upgrade my 3 year old pumpkin colored Cortland Int. line.
What's the skinny on the new fangled clear intemediates I see everyone stomping around the salt with? Like em? More productive? Fav brand?


06-20-2000, 11:58 AM
Terry- I have and use the Sciangler cold water striper clear intermediate and haven't had any trouble with it in the past 2 yrs. even in the warm water of last year. It doesn't get sticky like the Airflo clear (hi-sense) intermediate. Just my $.02. ronl

06-20-2000, 02:53 PM
so far I love the airflo coldwater clear line that I picked up for this season--it has had zero tangle problems, has little memory, and is one of the easiest casting lines I've thrown. Can't comment on the stickiness factor as of yet.

FYI, it will not take a nail knot though, and apparently Cortland's will...


06-20-2000, 05:02 PM
Two things I can offer:

a) The Cortland 444 Clear Intermediate is a good line, I've fished it thru last season (including Boneclave and Monomoy) and it's fishing well this season as well. I only recently replaced the original nail knot for the butt section because I stepped on the butt and it would have been too short if cut. I like the way it casts, it loads the rod well and shoots well. Tangling is not a big deal. I give the line an excellent rating thus far.

b) Rio has come out with a new clear intermediate line that you are free to sample in return for a report / critique. It is a clear 9wt intermediate and takes a nail knot.

Rich Dhooge currently has it checked out, but he can send it directly to you right away if you are interested in trying it out.

<b>Let me know!</b>

06-20-2000, 08:55 PM
Rich was running that Rio on a 10wt rod and it was not really loading the rod unless you false cast a lot of line. I liked the finish on the Rio line but didn't get a chance to try it on my 9wt. I have the cortland 9wt and can say so far so good now that I'm getting a clue on how to cast (Thanks Juro). I'd say the clear is a bit limp compared to the standard intermediates but it shoots like greased lightning. Rich is currently without a computer so I'll relay the message. Just shoot me an email with the ship to address for the Rio.

06-20-2000, 09:34 PM
Jim -

Didn't mean to imply a rush to return it - Rich is welcome to evaluate it until he is comfortable with it's plusses and minuses.


06-20-2000, 09:36 PM

Let me know what you decide on. I'm leaning toward the Cortland Camo-Intermediate. Bob gave it a pretty good review.

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06-22-2000, 09:51 AM
Fished the Rio clear Int. hard yesterday and love it. Little memory and very manageable in windy conditions.
Would like to try the Cortland 444 if available.


06-22-2000, 12:44 PM
I've used the Airflo 7000ts HiSens Int Clear for a while now and it's the best line I've used so far. No need for stretch and casts great. Some people talk about it getting sticky but I haven't had it happen yt. Also - The five year "no-crack" warranty, if it holds true to it's word, makes it the best deal out there.

06-22-2000, 12:56 PM
I have an Airflo clear int. for my 10 wt, which is the best casting line I've ever owned. Starting its 3rd season of use with no cracking nor stickiness.

06-22-2000, 05:22 PM
Apples to apples, the cracking I found was on the sinking portion of the 325 grain QD line. No cracking on clear line experienced to date, as a matter of fact the white finish intermediate 444 big game has held up incredibly tough for three years of abuse w/o cracking.

I've seen the material they use for sinking lines crack before on steelhead hybrid exchangeable heads after two or three seasons of hard fishing.

I think it is related to the amount of physical force it sustains, the running line for my Spey rods used to crack near the loop but nowhere else down the line. I would simply construct a new loop and was good as new.

I'll take a look to see where these cracks fall on the overall taper design of the QD.