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: Out and about in the southway, today

Rip Ryder
03-07-2008, 06:49 PM
Hi everyone,

Thought this would help get the May blood flowing a little faster.

I was out in the Southway today getting the moorings ready for the 2008 season.
After finishing that nasty job, we took the boat down to the land bridge at the end of South Beach.

Channel is still the same until you get down into the area of the closing. 90% of the pool at the very end has back filled in on it self and is now a huge flat. There is a narrow channel that hugs South Beach from the old G buoy down to the closure.
Even the original pool is filled in except for a slice of deep water running against the beach leading to the land bridge. Definitely going to be a first come, first served basis for the boats wanting to get in there to spend the day. Very narrow area to anchor at the end of the channel leading in. IF, and I do mean IF the fish find there way back there, you will have nice bright sand flats to sight fish on, but I really don't see any reason for them to go back in there, as there really wasn't much current other than slow rising tide water and that was with a N wind.

North Monomoy's east side dunes are shrinking by the year. The plover dune at broad creek had water all the way around it an hour before hightide. The little channel the clammers use to get into the tub did look like it was a bit deeper than last season and more pronounced. Minimoy on the west side has been pounded by the heavy SW winds we've had all winter. Just a sliver of what it was last summer. If you remember, it looked like Minimoy was going to actually become a good sustained Island, but the Hurricane of last fall changed all that.

Didn't get to go south on the west side at all. We started feeling the effects of boating in March, so it was time to head in. Sorry no pictures, but the trip into the area of the land bridge was a last minute deal.

Oh ya, the 2004 washover on South beach was very very flat and the same for the washover just behind the J buoy. Unfortuneatly the flats on the inside are holding it together and preventing a new break so far.

Lots of sand moving on the Morris island beach. The curb stone at the bottom of the stairs is completely uncovered. You actually have to jump off to get on the sand. I heard the last big storm we had with SW running up 45mph, the waves were breaking at the 5th step from the bottom at hightide. The whole stone wall is being undermined, and we lost a good chunk of the cliff on the north corner of the refuge.

7 weeks and counting

Capt Keith

03-07-2008, 07:35 PM
Thank you Capt'n for the report, I look forward to seeing the changes first hand from the deck of the Rip Ryder in May:D

03-07-2008, 11:06 PM
Keith... Great report and Thanks...It does get the blood flowing.:)

03-09-2008, 02:20 PM
that was some storm last night - 60mph winds (76 in chatham) and 3 " of rain here ( an inch of that in my basement :( ), I would have thought there were more changes again as there was a big moon tide smack bang in the middle of it . . .


03-19-2008, 12:25 PM
Kaptain Keith,

Thanks for the updates. What you don't know is that on the weekends Paxton has been going to Chatham and dredging a channel at the bottom of the stairs so you can pull your boat up right to the cement landing....:chuckle:

See ya' soon

Rip Ryder
03-19-2008, 02:23 PM
Mother nature may very well be setting up to break South Beach or the tombolo from the lighthouse beach. There are a lot of washovers and South Beach has gotten quite narrow directly across from the Overlook at the Refuge. South Beach looks to be preparing to break away and eventually drift away, as the washover of 2004 and the washovers from the fall Hurricane are so flat in the area of the J buoy and southward.

As always no one really knows, you can only guess by figuring on what you see going on that day.

Capt Keith

03-19-2008, 02:38 PM
this looks very different to the pics of 2-3 weeks ago :


the left channel is now draining chatham harbor, the right is draining pleasant bay.

awesome isn't it ? :cool:

Meanwhile, experts are scrutinizing a recent series of aerial photos of the new inlet which seem to suggest two nearly separate channels. The most northerly channel appears to be accommodating strong flood and ebb tides, using the deep channel inside Pleasant Bay that parallels the southern end of North Beach. The development of that channel is likely linked to the continued erosion of the tip of the beach, Chatham Coastal Resources Director Ted Keon said.

But the more southerly channel in the inlet appears to be more “flood dominant,” Keon said, with no significant amount of water from Chatham Harbor apparently flowing out of the inlet. On an outgoing tide, most of the water from Chatham Harbor appears to be exiting through the main inlet by the lighthouse, he noted.

Meanwhile, the photos show the continuing development of the “dogleg” on the northern end of North Beach Island, which threatens to make navigation difficult between Chatham Harbor and Pleasant Bay. Experts have theorized that eventually, that sand spit might connect North Beach Island to the mainland.

03-19-2008, 02:48 PM
:smokin: :smokin: :smokin:

interesting times ahead

Jim Miller
03-19-2008, 03:17 PM
Very Dynamic.
Is the Chatham commercial fleet still able to get out Chatham inlet? or is it shoaling to the point of not being navigatable? Looks tough to get a boat thru the "new" cut .... especially with the two streams and all those bars. :whoa: :tsk_tsk:

03-19-2008, 03:48 PM
Given the rate of change, perhaps the forum needs to invest in a Raven (or similar) UAV. Then members can get real-time imagery down-linked.

03-19-2008, 04:11 PM
even if we saw the pics we probably wouldn't understand them :chuckle:

with two inflows around that "island'', ministers point must have current passing it both ways or meeting itself :Eyecrazy:

it does sound like the incoming at chatham light will suck though. bum.