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: High Quality Fly Rod Components?


blindcurvw
03-03-2008, 07:44 PM
Starting to do more saltwater fly fishing so want to upgrade my slower TFO 9' 4pc 8WT for a much better Sage XI2 9' 4pc 8WT.

Any recommendations for a high quality reel seat to match the blank? I've considered Batson, Strubel, Pacific Bay, Forecast and REC so far...

Thanks

Warren
03-04-2008, 05:17 AM
Either a REC RSLL or a Strubel u-18 would be my choice if you want a seat similar to the factory offering. If you want to step it up some a Strubel U -21 titanium seat is real nice.

For a cool look you can take an ALPS triangular reel seat ( AH-12M size) and fit it into the grip. Do a Google search for Alps Triangle real seat. They are available though Batson dealers.

blindcurvw
03-05-2008, 10:14 AM
For a cool look you can take an ALPS triangular reel seat ( AH-12M size) and fit it into the grip.

Thanks for recommendations, Triangle real seat has an extremely cool look. The ID is +0.107" over the butt vs. +0.215 or more for the REC and Struble considerations. Maybe too small?

Frogfish
03-05-2008, 04:11 PM
ALPs makes some great saltwater seats

Warren
03-05-2008, 08:16 PM
Thanks for recommendations, Triangle real seat has an extremely cool look. The ID is +0.107" over the butt vs. +0.215 or more for the REC and Struble considerations. Maybe too small?


I am not sure what you mean Blindcurvw I just put a Alps on a TFO TiCr-x 9 wt the butt diameter is almost 1/2 inch & I had to space it. I know it will fit on a Xi2. I just built one of those too recently

Warren
03-05-2008, 08:28 PM
Here is a pic for you

http://www.jonesboring.com/DSC00682.JPG

blindcurvw
03-08-2008, 01:32 PM
Warren, Thanks for the pics...
I really do like the look of the triangle reel seat. And, nice work w/ the handle. I like the two toned cork accents.

My concern w/ the ALPS 12M was the ID. I've built 7 rods to date, and other than a light trout rod I've always used graphite arbors to marry reel seat to blank butt. The difference in XI2 butt diameter and ALPS inner diameter is only ~1/10". That's a lot of shaving for graphite arbors and no much material left. Thin graphite might crack/crumble under load of a big saltwater bruiser.

I plan to try some polyurethane arbors at this point.

Warren
03-08-2008, 02:40 PM
OK Blind I have ya now, The standard procedure for that by most rod builders is to use masking tape as a spacer. The epoxy will hold everything in place. Which is what I did in the above picture. once the epoxy is set that seat should never move if I mixed everything right

I moved this post to The Rod Rack where it really belongs.


P.S. I only had to make about a wrap & a half of tape to make things fit right

Frogfish
03-08-2008, 11:46 PM
Flexcoat also sells rell arbors for the same purpose. However, I have never seen or have had masking tape fail...

Hey Warren, is that a current build? What's the specs? I'm working on a 10wt FLO blank.

Warren
03-09-2008, 05:41 AM
Santosh,

That is a current build. I just finished wrapping it last night. If the planets come into alignment & the gods are happy with the virgin I sacrificed :hihi: I will epoxy the wraps today:D

Specs: 9 foot 9 wt TFO TiCr-x, Agate strippers & oversize guides #3 is the smallest.

Frogfish
03-09-2008, 11:59 AM
Ooooh, that will be a pretty rod. Saltwater, right?

What color are the wraps?

Warren
03-09-2008, 01:02 PM
Santosh,
Yes saltwater. Heavy duty striper stick:D The thing is quite the club
Cobalt blue thread, & gold trims. You should see it now that I have a coat of epoxy on the threads. No Color preservative, the translucent blue wraps look good against the metallic blue blank finish. When I am done I will post up a pic.

Frogfish
03-09-2008, 07:48 PM
Looking forward to the pics! Yea, I love the look of blue on blue or blue on black with metallics!.

blindcurvw
03-31-2008, 01:28 PM
Warren,

Thanks again for feedback. I've ordered the ALPS AH12M reelseat and hope to get it in a couple days so I can get started on this rod this weekend. Season is coming fast!

Warren
04-01-2008, 08:59 PM
Blind, I think you will like the ALPS . There are not to many out there right now you will have something different. I know for a fact that it will spruce up a Sage Xi-2 real nice

As promised I said I would post up the the TFO 9 wt when I was done.

Santosh above I said I used Cobalt Blue thread. I lied! I actually used Royal Blue. There is a difference

http://www.jonesboring.com/TFO1.JPG

http://www.jonesboring.com/TFO2.JPG

http://www.jonesboring.com/TFO4.JPG

Jim Miller
04-01-2008, 10:07 PM
Warren
Super job on the rod build!
A very nice custom job all around. :D

I'm waiting for TFO to make their Bluewater blanks available. I'd like to spin up a homegrown 16 wt. ;)

FishHawk
04-02-2008, 05:57 AM
Great looking thread work , Warren. FishHawk

blindcurvw
04-02-2008, 03:43 PM
Kudos on the rod and the photography (nice pics).

Warren
04-02-2008, 05:06 PM
Thanks guys, I appreciate the the kind words. Blind you will have to show us what you come up with when you are done.

Remember the rule.....If you did not take pics, it did not happen :hihi: :hihi:

Frogfish
04-02-2008, 08:53 PM
Very Nice!

blindcurvw
04-02-2008, 10:40 PM
We'll see if my end product is as photo worthy. Will do my best.

blindcurvw
04-12-2008, 08:49 PM
Getting a slow start as I've been struggling with components and experimenting w/ new techniques. This rod is a gift so am going to put in my very best.

Used my drill press as a lathe and made my first custom fighting butt. I'm pretty thrilled w/ how it turned out. This is just a proto and will now get some nicer cork to work with on the final version.

I'm really impressed with how well the drill press works!!!

http://home.comcast.net/~vtflyfisher/public_html/Images/Reel_Seat_FightingButt_Zoom.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~vtflyfisher/public_html/Images/RodBuildingLathe.jpg

Warren
04-13-2008, 09:47 PM
Blind,
Now we are cookin' Looks good to me. The good thing about custom rods is..... well....they are custom. What you want is what is you get.

Remember the curse of the craftsman is being in a hurry.

If it takes you all year to finish up, no worries mate! :D

When you get to the next step send another pic.

BTW, The drill press can be the prime mover for all the steps needed to turn rod components even a reel seat if you think it through

blindcurvw
04-20-2008, 12:13 AM
Now building two rods....

Sage Xi2 8WT w/ ALPS and guides (TBD)
TFO TiCrX 9WT w/ ALPS and Single Foot TiCH-Blue Guides

Glued and turned the handle for the TFO, here's pic w/ reelseat and handle together.

http://home.comcast.net/~vtflyfisher/public_html/Images/WFTwoToneRing%20Grip.jpg

Small flat spot in taper near top of handle I want to blend out a bit more... Otherwise , I like how it came out.

blindcurvw
05-06-2008, 12:11 AM
Rod 1 of 2 Complete... Components in transit for Rod #2

Specs:
TFO TiCrx 9' 9WT
ALPS Triangle Reel Seat Tich/LtGold
Guides: 2 Stripper + 7 SF + Tip - All Tich framed w/ Blue Zirconia inserts
Handle: Custom Two-Tone Full Wells style w/ Fighting Butt
Wrappings: Three Tone Royal Blue & Silver HT Metallic guarding Royal Blue NCP
Finish: Flex Coat (2x) + Permagloss (3x)

http://home.comcast.net/~vtflyfisher/public_html/Images/Guides_and_Wrapping.jpg

Warren
05-06-2008, 06:20 PM
Looks like the wraps & finish came out pretty well Blind. One word of caution though, I would make my female ferrule wraps at least 3/4 inch long on any future rods. I have seen some discussion that they are really unnecessary on on SOME blanks, but the consensus among those I have discussed it with suggest that they are indeed a must. I tend to agree. I like your tip section wrap over the gray. Well done

Looks like you have a winner. now go catch some fish:hihi:

blindcurvw
05-07-2008, 12:51 AM
Thanks for the feedback and original inspiration...

I'm a tough self critic (Being an engineer is a curse) and not very happy w/ finish on wraps. Base layer of flexcoat was applied too cold which allowed many wraps to set w/ a ripple (barely noticeable in this pic), a two or three bubbles. I know better but was forced into the basement during this step due to poor planning. :mad: Additional coats helped smooth almost all variation out. :)

I was wondering about wrapping the female ferrule and thought hard and decided a little bit would go a long way... Now you got me concerned. :confused: :Eyecrazy:

Easy enough to strip/re-wrap/finish 2nd section, third section wrapped fully don't need to do anything there, tip section is fully epoxied over decorative wrap. Not much I can think to do on tip section, hope the epoxy finish helps.

Took it for a test drive Sunday evening but Pike weren't cooperating. No problem as I was perfectly content to just cast... Wow, impressive how easy it is to make some booming casts w/ that rod. Will try to get some action on it again Thursday.