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: Danielsson LW vs Nautilus CCF


Frogfish
01-21-2008, 07:29 PM
Other than the price differential, how does the Danielsson LW 8twleve and the Nautilus CCF 10 compare?

salmo
01-21-2008, 09:02 PM
Both are great reels. The LW 8-12 is a bit lighter by 2 oz ( 7.3 oz) and has a larger capacity line/backing capacity then Nautilus No.10
Its HD brother weights 10.3 oz , cost more and the HD drag can stop a whale.
LW drag is lighter, but still suitable for all freshwater fishing and mid-size tarpon.
Nautilus design has been evolving for the last 3 years, while Danielsson is unchanged since it introduction in 2000-2001.

In may personal opinion Danielsson has a better design. You should probably look around and see both reel to be convinced.

The Danielsson current prices, after recent 20% hike, are still 30% lower then used to be ( when distributed by Loop) , thanks due to direct sale form the factory.

FishHawk
01-22-2008, 04:54 AM
I just got a Nautilus reel and it's well thought out design. It''s a sealed drag combining both cork and carbon fiber . Made in the USA which is also a plus. FishHawk

Smolt
01-22-2008, 04:15 PM
I have both reels. The specs shown on the respective websites notwithstanding, I find the difference in backing capacity bewteen the two reels to be negligible. The spool is much easier to change on the Nautilus which, IMHO, is a big consideration when deciding on a reel to use for two-handed rods where line/spool changing is something done pretty often. Both reels are beautifully made and, as was mentioned above, the LW is lighter, which makes it a better fit for shorter, lighter rods.

Hope this helps.

Frogfish
01-22-2008, 07:09 PM
Thanks guys! Man, what a hard decision!

The reel will be placed on a custom 10wt 9' Fly Logic rod, with FAST action. The reel will be spooled with 11wt intermediate line. This rod will be used for Great Lakes Salmon, tarpon, jacks, spinner sharks, and in the near future, bones, and smaller trevally. I will use it in the surf, flats, channels, and off boats.
Does this info sway the comparison to either reel?

Also, how well do you guys think a Lamson Velocity would handle in saltwater conditions?

salmo
01-22-2008, 08:15 PM
You probably be better of with Danielsson HD 9-13

http://www.danielsson-flyreels.se/us/prod_hd.php

it will take wt.11 + 250y or #30 lb of regular Dacron. The drag will is perfect for Chinooks and Tarpon. You will never use max. drag setting anyway, as it can break 40+ lb tippet.

The Lamson is in a second league.

Zb

Frogfish
01-22-2008, 08:34 PM
Can the reel handle giant trevally, if I ever tangle with one?

salmo
01-22-2008, 09:40 PM
People are catching Tuna on HD reels. Unless you want to fight whale the drag will handle large salt water fish.

It you have to much $$$ you can pick up
Danielsson anti-reverse control, which comes in 4 sizes.

http://danielsson-flyreels.ehandel.net/en/category/18/control_series

9-14 weights 10 oz or so, the largest is 15-16oz, almost suitable for sperm whale:lildevl:

but here you are looking for $ 900-1000 reel ( Control) :Eyecrazy:
http://www.danielsson-flyreels.se/downloads/Press%20release%202007-03-01%20eng.pdf

Frogfish
01-23-2008, 10:56 AM
Thanks for you help Salmo!
As of right know, I'm leaning towards the HD rather than a Nautilus CCF 10

FishHawk
01-25-2008, 06:24 AM
Something to think about a lot of guides in FLa use the Nautilus along with their Tibors and Ables that should tell you something about the CCF reel.
FishHawk

petevicar
01-25-2008, 06:39 AM
A week or so ago I received my Charlton Mako 9500 and 9550 reels.

I don't think you can find anything better.

Pete

juro
01-25-2008, 07:41 AM
HAHA Well Pete, who could argue?

Amazing pieces of work although the Charlton for my taste was a little like the batmobile

http://www.moviegoods.com/Assets/product_images/1020/221958.1020.A.jpg

Vs. a more subtle yet elegant coupe (Danielsson).

http://images.businessweek.com/ss/07/10/1008_mbcl550/image/opener.jpg


Would I buy a MAKO if I had the cash? Absolutely!!!

salmo
01-25-2008, 09:10 AM
Both Tibor and Nautilus are manufacture in FL, not Sweden. So marketing, local ties and the facts that guides are getting them at 50% discount make the difference…….
Since Danielsson is sold directly from the factory, there are no discount for guides…..

It is well know that 90% computers run on Windows. Does it mean that Windows or Vista ( poor copy of Apple OS X, Unix base systems ) is better then Macs/OSX?



Mac – BMW
Windows/Vista : Hundi

But seriously, all mentioned reels ( Tibor and Nautilus ) are great , and what guides are using is effected by many factors.
The differences between the products are small.

BTW, It is better to compare HD with other reels for general salt water applications, and consier anti-reverse "Contorl" are the top line ( $ 1000 )
http://danielsson-flyreels.se/downloads/Press%20release%202007-03-01%20eng.pdf

Frogfish
01-25-2008, 01:19 PM
Lol, the Control and Mako reels are sweet, but they are more like this:
http://www.automotoportal.com/media/images/vijesti/060711010.jpg
Bugatti Veyron

While I can only afford this:
http://www.myfinancialjourney.com/images/car001.jpg
LOL

In all reality, the max of my budget is the HD or CCF. I would love a Mako or Control, but they are too expensive...right now :p

salmo
04-15-2008, 06:35 PM
Anti-reverse Control reels made by Danielsson for Batman....:cool:

The two shown below have just arrived. Weights ( 7-12; 8.8oz, capacity in between HD 7-10 and 9-13) and bigger ( 8-13) one 10.6 oz and capacity 10% higher then HD 11-14. Dual regulation of drag ( at max. is a bit stronger then HD ) . The largest 11-infinity is perfect for Sperm Whale :hihi: and weight 16 oz.

I am also attaching specs of all Danielsson reels. I would subtract ca. 15% backing as they assume that the gap form line to housing is only 2mm ( 3/32")

description
http://195.35.83.106/~xc26468/index.php?page=ct-serien&lang=en

http://www.myfishingpictures.com/data/500/47.jpg
http://www.myfishingpictures.com/data/500/56.jpg

http://www.myfishingpictures.com/data/500/38.jpg

http://www.myfishingpictures.com/data/500/65.jpg

Paxton
04-15-2008, 06:59 PM
Re Lampson Velosity4.......I have had one for 4 years now and not one bit of trouble. Use it exclusively in salt...just rinse it off, let it dry....then take the spool off and clean the inside (the spool seals the drag). It has a conical drag that can stop a truck (a small one :-) All stainless steel inside.
Is it as great has the high end reels mentioned in this thread? ....probably not....but for the price of about $265....you have in my opinion a reel as good if not better than a $400 reel. $600 plus..maybe not......it's a great reel and affordable.
Ron

flysully
05-13-2008, 06:09 PM
Since the Daniellson comes from Sweden, what's going to happen when that reel has to go back to Sweden for repair;bearing postage/insurance from US, and the the wait at US Customs when it comes back, repaired, from Sweden? Any comments re this?

Wouldn't it just be a better decision to purchase the Nautilus from the Florida mfr especially since all the comments I've read here are equally divided as to the Nautilus and the Daniellson?

Any comments appreciated as I'm about to make the plunge. Thx.

chromedome
05-14-2008, 02:37 AM
Since the Daniellson comes from Sweden, what's going to happen when that reel has to go back to Sweden for repair;bearing postage/insurance from US, and the the wait at US Customs when it comes back, repaired, from Sweden? Any comments re this?

Wouldn't it just be a better decision to purchase the Nautilus from the Florida mfr especially since all the comments I've read here are equally divided as to the Nautilus and the Daniellson?

Any comments appreciated as I'm about to make the plunge. Thx.

D has a repairman in Oregon. I used him once and the service was good.

Larson, Ron, Danielsson Fly Fishing Reels,2991 Denn Avenue, Roseburg, OR 97470Phone: 541 673 9810; email: rlarson@mcsi.net