: Big Mac Attack
10-27-2000, 08:19 AM
Last night Grego and I went out on cricket patrol to the pogey puddle at the backside of Deveroux beach in Marblehead. Greg was right-billions. As we walked up we could hear splashes of fish hammering them. I ran back and got my rod and started casting. I was getting hits but couldn't connect. Finally went to a pogey pattern with a smaller hook (size 2). Started hauling in lots of Mackeral from 12-16".
Lots of fun. Some of the mini runs were cool. Anyway after that got boring we went accross the street to the beach for maybe a passing striper. Nada. I'm not ready to promounce it dead yet based on a half hour of casting in one spot at night. I also got to show Greg some of my fishy spots out at Nahant. We noticed no bait so didn't bother and headed up to Marblehead. Oh ya, when we first got to the east end of Nahant we were walking down to the water when right in front of us an awesome meteorite burning yellowish green fell all the way down to the water. Cool. It could be over but I'm not conceding yet. I'm giving up this season kicking and screaming.
10-27-2000, 09:13 AM
The night started with an Awesome meteorite over Nahant; Terry said it would bring us good luck. Terry's Spot there looks incedibley fishey, but there were no signs of bait or fish. We took a quick look at Preston Beach in Swampscott, then off to Devereux.
We went over to the harbor side first & sure enough the bait was in thick again. This time I brought my digital camera & got some great shots, which I will post later. I also got a shot of Terry's first (of many) Maks. I had one mystery fish on, but again it fell off due to very soft mouths (I'm still thinking Drum, maybe??)
Terry was hooking up about 4 to my 1. They REALLY liked his pogie pattern a lot better than mine. Terry said we need 6 weight rods, but a few of these buggers really faught. Well, it was a beutifull night & it was much better than watching TV.
For Stripers, my advise would be, Go South Yound Man!
10-27-2000, 05:52 PM
Here's a little of the bait we saw, maybe 3' X 3' & there was hundreds of yards of it!
Terry's First Mac, Nice!
AWESOME images! Kudos!
I hope you won't mind if I use those photos for our upcoming encyclopedia project (this winter).
Congratulations on the poor-man's tunoids http://126.96.36.199/images/flytalk/Wilk.gif
10-28-2000, 08:06 AM
That is-first MAC on the fly! Jigged em a lot as a kid in Ipswich bay.
10-28-2000, 08:41 AM
I meant Terry's first Mac of the night, but first Mac on the fly works too. For me it's another species I can add to he list of fish caught on a fly I tied, but they liked Terry's pattern a lot better.
Juro, I would be honored to contribute. I have a few more shots from that night including dead pogies scattered along the shore. I was paticularly happy with the top photo, I was surprised it came out so well given the low light conditions. I used a combination of a 6V flashlight & the camera flash. What impressed me the most about that bait is how THICK it is & I think the LAYERS are captured in that shot!
11-02-2000, 08:20 AM
I just can't let this post die!
After looking at A LOT of Pogies. And After getting some insight from Terry & Al about the use of spredders to get a wider profile, here's what I came up with. I know that there is nothing new under the sun, but I really like the holographic gill plates. Also, one thing that Terry & I noticed, that was not captured in the photos, was that when pogies are scared there Eyes glow RED! Hopefullly these guys will see some action this weekend!
i'm so outta here
11-02-2000, 08:31 AM
Nice flies, Greg!
I see you've refined the gill plate. The bottom fly (purple on top) has a much nicer look. You're really making progress quickly. Keep it up.
The head design is attributable to Page Roger's bigeye baitfish, although the body design is unique. I am a big believer that the cheek plates are key when it comes to menhaden because of the way they feed. I've had great luck on patterns where the cheeks were emphasized in the past, including the bigeye baitfish proper. I remember having this conversation with the Estey bros. before the RhodyFest I, where they showed up with their emphatically cheeked bunker patterns. MAN were these flies HOT!
There is a west coast coho fly with a highly emphasized cheek setup on a tube fly. I have their phone # and plan to contact them for bulk rates.
11-02-2000, 09:18 AM
I got that Hollographic material at Jo-Ann's Fabric Store, in the Kids Craft Dept. It is plastic with an adhesive back, comes in 8" x 10" sheets for $1.29. So, you can cut out any size/shape you want. I wrap the front tip of the gill plate, then use a liberal coating of hard-head or Epoxey.
11-02-2000, 09:36 AM
Grego: Nice! You're flying along. I've had success using the EZ body spreader on big Yaks and smaller pogies. The real test is how do they hold up under water? After many casts?
I'd like to try to accomplish a good spread with natural material too. Jared gave me a great pogey fly at Rhody. I would love to learn his methods. I'm still a relatively new tyer. Maybe Jared can explain his spreading technique? Is that the so called "high tie"?
This could be a good pattern for the Tying Clave.
11-02-2000, 09:43 AM
it's just a hi-tie....the one I gave you is tied w/ Enrico's Sea Fibres...but you
can do the same thing with any number of materials/synthetics....you simply attach
a small amount of material to the top and then bottom of the shank...work you way
forward, repeating the process...time-consuming, but makes for a wide-bodied, slim
if I can get to UFT early enough, I'll be tying some before my "official" class