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: getting started with the tying


jero
09-19-2007, 02:01 PM
Hello folks,

Im interested in giving the fly tying a go, I was wondering if anybody knew a place, on this forum or in the internet, where I could have acces to a tutorial explaining the basics, from tools to tying the very first fly.
thanks very much.

flytyer
09-19-2007, 07:54 PM
Try flytyingforum.com

And for tools, etc. you need to get started, do a search of this forum for fly tying vise, fly tying tools, fly tying materials, fly tying kits and you will find lots of material on how to select them and avoid pitfalls.

Dn2tabyss
11-11-2007, 09:06 PM
Go to the bass pro website they have full kits for sale for 50$

flytyer
11-11-2007, 11:51 PM
Folks,

I've been telling people this for 30 years, and it appears it needs to repeated once more.

Please do yourself a favor and don't buy fly tying kits despite the seemingly great price some are offered at. Kits have el cheapo vises that aren't worth the room they take up, poor quality scissors, bobbins, and whip finishers. And they are full of very poor quality materials in very odd and mostly un-usable colors and sizes.

The only exception to this is if you go to a local fly shop, tell them exactly what 2 or 3 simple flies you use most often, tell them you don't want a cheapo imported vise, scissors, or bobbin, tell them you'd like to spend $75.00 to $100.00 for everything (vise, bobbn, scissors, whip finisher, and the material for those 2 oe 3 simple flies), and they will put together a package for you that will exactly meet your needs.

Thompson and Griffin both have good vises for around $50.00 that will last a person a lifetime of normal tying. You don't need rotary to learn on (in fact, I recommend you avoid rotary until you have developed good tying technique, which generally takes a few years and around 1,000 flies tied. Good scissors are available for around $10.00, good bobbins (S&M is one of my favorite bobbins, I own 18 of them I like them so much) can be had for $10.00 (the S&M sells for about $7.00), and a good quality imported Materelli type whip finisher is around $7.50.

Don't get an el cheapo vise, they are false ecomony. The have poorly designed jaws, poor tempering (either too soft of too hard), don't hold hooks well, and don't last very long.

For materials, get the materials you need to tie 2-4 simple flies that you fish (i.e. flies like the WOOLLY BUGGER, GREY HACKLE, BROWN HACKLE, WOOLLY WORM, HARE'S EAR NYMPH, etc.) and the hooks to tie them in 2 different sizes. This way you will not buy materials you have no use for. Then as your tying improves, add the materials to tie another fly, and then another, and so on. In a few years you will have acquired the materials to tie the flies you actually use and avoided spending money on material you won't use.

teflon_jones
11-12-2007, 01:30 AM
I got one of those kits (~$75 version) as a Christmas present from my father-in-law a few years ago. I've been fly fishing for 20+ years now, but I'd never had an interest in tying. I actually saw the kit before Christmas because my father-in-law left it out by accident when he got home from the store. When I saw it I told my wife "I hope that's not for me! I have no interest in tying!"

Well, after a couple of months that winter and an advancing case of cabin fever I pulled it out and tried tying for the first time. It took a few tries, but I found that I really liked doing it!

The biggest frustration I had with that kit and tying in general when I got started was the quality of that piece of junk vice that came with the kit. It was extremely difficult to get a hook into it so that it would stay put, and most of the time it would move around or pop out a few times during each fly I tied. It worked barely ok for about the first 10 flies I tied and rapidly got worse after that.

I'm with flytyer on this one, get yourself a decent vice and skip the frustration. I highly recommend the Danvise. Inexpensive and it's a full rotary. The other thing about buying a quality vice is that if you decide you don't like tying, you can probably put it on eBay and get not much less than you paid for it!

josko
11-12-2007, 07:22 AM
flyanglersonline dot com has an excellent section on fly tying.

Jim Miller
11-12-2007, 09:15 AM
when selecting a vise, consider what types and size patterns/hooks you will be tying. Cheaper vises may not accomidate a range from trout to saltwater. Some manuf. offer different jaw sets to accomidate this. Some vises are designed to work with the full range of hooks with one jaw set.
Also you might consider a "traveler" vise to get started. (usually cheaper cost) and if you decide to stay with tying you can upgrade to a better bench vise and still have a backup with the traveler. :D

FWIW: I've had a dyna-king barracuda for 25 years .... still works perfectly.

Camoman13
11-17-2007, 09:03 PM
You Can Buy It On eBay!! That is were I got mine.