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Fisher931
06-15-2007, 10:41 PM
i have a pfleuger fly rod and reel right now ( the cheap one at dicks) and want to upgrade, what should i upgrade to for trout, smallies and crappie? my price range is 150 and under! :)

flytyer
06-16-2007, 08:53 PM
I assume you already have a fly line to go with the rod you already have, which means you really don't need to get another line, unless it is an untapered, level one, in which case you should get yourself a WF floating line.

The Pflueger reel will work just fine for any trout, bass, or crappie, so you don't need a reel. Back in the 50's, 60's, and 70's Pleuger reels were considered to among the best and several fly fishing authors and professionals used them (the late Joe Brooks and Dan Bailey come readily to mind). So, save yourself the price of a reel and keep using the one you have for now and put your money into a better rod.

Therefore, all you really need is a better rod. If you already have a WF line with your Pfleuger set-up, get a rod of the same line weight. TFO, Redington, St. Croix, Lamiglas all make rods for $150.00 and under and all of them are decent casting rods as well. The best thing to do would be go to a fly shop that carries some of them and casts them in the parking lot. Then pick the one you like best.

woollybully
08-24-2007, 11:11 AM
I currently own and use 3 rods. A 2wt. and 6 wt. Cabela's rod and, my favorite, a G.Loomis GLX 4wt.

I would like to add one last rod to this collection. I believe it would be a 3 wt or a 5 wt. Since I primarily fish strip pits and pons for sunfish, bluegill, and bass, I am leaning towardsthe 3wt. end of the spectrum.

My question is, which company should I go for in the upper end of the fly rods available? Should it be the Zero Gravity of Orvis, the Sage TCR, or a Winston, or Redington, or something else entirely.

I would appreciate findings on 3 wt rods from these companies.

Thanks
Woollybully

zimflo.
08-24-2007, 07:49 PM
I love my temple fork signature series 5wt.. I just caught a good solid 18-20in trout on it, and these were some picky fishy's.. It casts like a charm for me anyway..

Warren
08-25-2007, 05:54 AM
My question is, which company should I go for in the upper end of the fly rods available? Should it be the Zero Gravity of Orvis, the Sage TCR, or a Winston, or Redington, or something else entirely.


A word on the Sage TCR, it is a very stiff fast action rod designed to cast flies along way. As Sage advertises it for the experienced technical caster or some such thing. (Wide large rivers come to mind.) A Sage SLT or Z-axis would probably be a better choice.

geardaddy37
08-25-2007, 07:50 AM
I love my orvis 3 weight (rocky mountain 6 and a half footer) with my old style battenkill 3-4. It's hard to throw bass flies with though. It is definitley more for tight quarters. I am currently salivating over the 9 foot Orvis Zero grav rods...

Camoman13
11-13-2007, 07:04 PM
I would just stick with what you got. I think I have The same one. If it is an okay rod keep it and use it. I dont think your going to get a good rod for under $150. Maby for 200 you might.:smile:

flyster
05-03-2008, 12:34 AM
I too have a Pfleuger rod, as a backup. I primarily use a 5wt. 9ft. TFO Lefty Kreh series rod. Absolutely love it. They have a lifetime warranty, and I have cashed in on it three times already. They have a no-questions-asked policy, so you pay $25 or so and you have a brand new rod in 1-2 weeks. They are hands down the best value for the money.

Regarding reels, Hobbs Creek (I believe it is a Bass Pro Shops brand) makes a dang nice reel for around $40. It is a large arbor, metal reel with a disc drag - for $40 bucks!

Checkout a review on both of these items here : (link removed)

chachasimpson
05-07-2008, 09:19 PM
You should also look into the Echo Classic rods. I have one in a 10ft 7wt that I really like. My buddy has the 7'6" 3wt and that's a pretty nice rod too. And they have the warranty, a no questions asked, just send in the rod and $30. I already used my warranty once, and got a rod back in less than two weeks. The rods are right at the top of your price range, $150, but worth it IMHO.

jcc_00
05-11-2008, 08:03 PM
I want to throw in that the TFO rods, especially for the money, are really good rods. I have a two hander and a 5wt and both are well made and feel terrific casting. You can always add a specialty rod later but it's a great way to start and it will stay a favorite rod for a long time. Hard to go wrong with TFO and I 've tried every major brand except Winston.......

FlyMan
05-21-2008, 03:53 PM
You may want to take a look at LL Bean's Streamlight rods. Depending on the weight and how many pieces, they start at $99.00 and go up to $155.00. A decent rod for the money and you can't beat their guarantee and customer service.

balticflyfisher
06-02-2008, 03:11 AM
I am also a fan of Tim Rajeff's Echo rods - they represent great value for money and his no-quibble warranty is great.

dry
06-08-2008, 02:23 AM
My question is, which company should I go for in the upper end of the fly rods available? Should it be the Zero Gravity of Orvis, the Sage TCR, or a Winston, or Redington, or something else entirely.

I would appreciate findings on 3 wt rods from these companies.

Thanks
Woollybully

I will answer your question after you answer mine: I am going to a ice cream shop tommorow night, what kind of ice cream should I get, Vanilla, Mint Chip, or chocolate?

That is exactly the kind of question you are asking! BTW, the tcr will be discontinued so should discounted %30 -%40 within the next 4 or so months.

dry
06-08-2008, 02:24 AM
I am also a fan of Tim Rajeff's Echo rods - they represent great value for money and his no-quibble warranty is great.

Where are his blanks made? The US or overseas?

flytyer
06-08-2008, 03:04 PM
ECHO blanks and completed rods are made in China to Tim Rajeff's specs.

dry
06-22-2008, 07:25 AM
ECHO blanks and completed rods are made in China to Tim Rajeff's specs.

I was reading a article on recalls, about 10 in all, every single one was from China. I wonder how many people would not use Echo if they knew they were made in China?

Means they probably cost about $10 to make. TFO has their comlete TICR made in korea and it only costs them ~$30 to make. Of course with a warranty of $25, shipping a new rod out, and shipping being ~13, you have to figure that in.

salmo
08-03-2008, 05:42 PM
My question is, which company should I go for in the upper end of the fly rods available? Should it be the Zero Gravity of Orvis, the Sage TCR, or a Winston, or Redington, or something else entirely.


If you are willing to spend $ 600-650 for the hight-end, SH rod why not call Kerry Burkheimer. He is renowned for his 2-handed rods , but only few realized that he has been making SH rods for much longer form the blanks rolled out in he shop in Washougal, WA. For example he has at least several dozens tapers in wt. 4, 5, etc. separately and will make you the rod according to your specification, with respect to action and cosmetics, which are superb. To save $$$, just chose classic model (cosmetics), thought Vintage model are beautiful, with many artistic, sometimes hidden elements.

Of course the blank/action designed and rolled out in his shop are most critical.



If you can only get your hand on some of his SH rods and cast them, then it will be very easy to discuss any further blank/action modification with him over the phone.
I had an opportunity to get form Kerry some of his mock-ups, before making my mind what modifications I like , if any.

I am right now in the process of selling most of my BIIX and WT rods ( unless I keep some as a back-up), as Kerry's rods keep them in the closet. In addition to casting they also fish extremely well, and that what is most important.

Many rods coming form big boys cast well on parking lots, but only selected number can match its performance on the water.

Don't get me wrong, Winston are in general great rods.

Saying that very few doubts that Kerry Burkheimer is probably the best blank designer in the world and one of the bast rod makers.

Unlike in the past, he has a few people working with him, so if you poke the tip of your rod into bushes and break it :tsk_tsk: :tsk_tsk: , you will get the repaired rod back within 2-4 weeks.

striperholic
04-18-2009, 10:29 PM
You may want to take a look at LL Bean's Streamlight rods. Depending on the weight and how many pieces, they start at $99.00 and go up to $155.00. A decent rod for the money and you can't beat their guarantee and customer service.

I realize you typed this awhile ago, but thanks for the tip, that's within my price range.