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RayStachelek
10-04-2006, 02:56 PM
.... the migration has started along the Rhode Island coast.

It seems every time we wet the boat along Pt. Jude conditions look good. On the water an hour before sunrise, and there were plenty of rainbait in pods along the West Wall to Deep Hole. Nice sea condition with waves in the 2-3ft. range wind from the Southeast. High tide near sunrise with plenty of moving water. Terns were active finding pods of bait, but they never got a dinner. Nature needs cooperation to work together. Seems that the birds don't get fed unless fish start slashing bait. Now that's teamwork. Where are the bluefish blitzes and albie attracts for this time of year?

These scenarios seem to be the norm every trip. Water temps are 67 degrees. Maybe that has something to do with it? We did scrounge up some bass inside along structure and a few big bluefish so I'm not complaining. Right now there is no signs of any "Motherload." Another nice day on the water with mild air temps.

juro
10-04-2006, 03:32 PM
Based on recent phone convs and reports on line north shore is still blowing up - habah great too - so I think you are spot on Ray.

Bet it goes into November this year although the NE will speed things up in a hurry.

Dble Haul
10-05-2006, 11:22 AM
I concur with Ray. Last week in South County, we saw spotty migration behavior at best. The stripers still seemed to be in a summer mode.

doogue
10-05-2006, 11:27 AM
I can tell you that it is still blowing up in New Hampshire.

I saw very large schools of bass under birds in NH last week. The fish were small but they were plentiful.

I am headed out again tonight and hope to find the same...although surf conditions may push me into the estuaries.

Just an FYI,

Mike

Adrian
10-05-2006, 01:55 PM
This is interesting.

How would you define the start of the fall migration and how long does it normally last? The spring migration always seems to blow wide open around during May, irrespective of how cold or warm the winter. But the fall always seems to be harder to pin down.

Are there years when the majority of fish blow through our region in a short period (say a couple of weeks) and other years when the migration is spread out over a longer period of a few months?

There were a lot of big fish taken at night by conventionals during late August / September.

Would those have been resident fish or early migrating fish headed South?

I had a great day with Mark and Greg in Quonny over breaking bass in Kayaks last November.

Maybe we'll still be fishing at Christmas this year:smokin:

doogue
10-05-2006, 08:06 PM
Had a great night fishing the NH coast from shore tonight. 20+ fish in 2 hours on the fly. It was a blast casting into clouds of bunker and bass.

I was still catching fish consistently on a blue over white mushy with one eye. Then on the same mushy with no more white on the belly and no eyes. I caught over 60 fish on this little fly over the past month.

I did not keeper tonight...but I saw plenty of big fish in the wash...including some that came clear out of the water to exposre their true size.

Not sure what this means to the RI folks out there but there are still plenty of fish up here. I have been heading out one night a week for over a month and have been fishing in blitzing schools every night (all from shore).

Not sure what this all means, but just an FYI.

Mike

RayStachelek
10-05-2006, 08:41 PM
Adrian brought up a good point about how difficult the fall migration is to pin down. Seems to change every year. Who knows what the factors are? Could be sea water temps, day time temps, storms, and bait supplies who really knows.

But the arrival and departure of striped bass reminds me of "Throwing a Party." Give a specific time and everyone arrives about the same time. Near the party end though, everyone leaves by there own accord and the times seem to stagger.

FishHawk
10-06-2006, 04:47 AM
When the water temp hits around 52 degrees it's over for the non -resident fish. The water is still too warm for the bulk of the fish to move but they're getting ready. FishHawk