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: Late UK fishing reporrrrrrt (brrrrrrrrrr!)


Adrian
04-12-2006, 04:36 PM
Better late than never I guess :)

This past week-end I hooked up with Steveo and Jamie at one of their South Coast spots. A very "fishy" place too, with loads of structure but, alas on this day. no fish. Another few weeks and it'll be a different story.

Steveo working one of the edges ....

http://www.avsharp.com/uk0406/stevo2.jpg

And Jamie catching a few waves ...

http://www.avsharp.com/uk0406/jamie2.jpg

The weather was forecast to be Westerly fresh but it decided to blow from the North and it was very cold.

We gave it a good few hours before reparing to a local hostelry for sustenance. One of the beers on tap that day was called "FFF" (triple F) which I thought was pretty cool. It tasted good too!

Great to catch up with the lads from the old country and looking forward to reports as their season warms up.

Paxton
04-12-2006, 05:50 PM
Adrian, Using only letters to label beer must be an English thing....the best beer that I ever had in my life was in Australia....it was triple X (XXX)...of course I had it in Cairns and when we went to Sidney, I asked for it at the local pub and almost got killed.....comment from the bartender was....."That's northern beer, they call it XXX because they can't spell up there, because they are all stupid, we sell Victoria Bitter".....being fairly smart, I ordered what they had and said that it was better!! :) Whew!!!!
Ron

Quentin
04-12-2006, 07:03 PM
Adrian, thanks for the report. I don't know much about the fishing over there so I'd be interested to hear some details about the types & sizes of fish that can be caught in that area and the flies and tactics that you use for them.

Q

FredA
04-12-2006, 07:29 PM
Looks just like Chat Ham.

titleguy
04-12-2006, 07:44 PM
Fondly remember my days in London, drinking Castlemaines (XXX) at the Globe on Marlyebone Road and the Old Rising Sun on Paddington Street, now some sort of art deco club.:frown:

jamie
04-13-2006, 04:07 AM
Adrian, It was great to meet up. As you say in another few weeks once we get rid of the consistent northerlies we should start seeing fish.

I took a few pics and will try and get around to taking them off the camera and posting them.

Guernseybass
04-13-2006, 06:28 AM
Guys - the beers name is Castlemaine XXXX. I am pretty sure you can buy the cans in the US.

Quentin - as to flies and tactics, i think myself, Jamie and Stevo will be honest enough to admit that we shamelessly steal them from you guys !

we use exactly the same lines, flies and tactics although we have to work much harder for our fish as there is much less of them due to commercial overfishing. the fish are also generally smaller - a 5lber is a good fish, 8lber is a speciemen and a 10lber is a fish of a lifetime.

the sport here is in its infancy with only 4 or 5 SWFF guides covering the whole country, but the sport is growing rapidly and we are developing our own flies like the Fag Ash Lil and the Cockatoo Clouser so we are adding a little to the knowledge base.

but no or very little sightfishing here :frown:

Mark.

Paxton
04-13-2006, 07:02 AM
Mark....my apologies on XXX....it should have been XXXX.......this Yank can't spell:)
I have looked for the beer in the U.S...and to date haven't found it....will certainly inquire again.....darn good beer and potent!!!!
Ron

Stevo
04-13-2006, 09:38 AM
Here are a couple more photos of that day, this time with Adrian in them... You can just make him out (he's the dot on the far left)

http://static.flickr.com/48/127912619_38c5d6a984.jpg


Here he is again fishing a little more sedately!

http://static.flickr.com/54/127912618_c07648587b.jpg

The pub & grub after the fishing was worth the wait! Still abit early in our season yet. :smokin:

Great to see you again Adrian.

OC
04-13-2006, 01:55 PM
Boy that last pic loks just like as Fred says Chat Ham light on a big flood tide.

Is it stripers your after over there? Do you have some fish pictures. What saltwater game fish do you guys fish for off the shore? Looks like beautiful water are you fishing near Weymouth, England.

Stevo
04-13-2006, 05:56 PM
OC

We were fishing a beach on the borders of West Sussex and Hampshire. Weymouth is a great place for SWFF and is in the most beautiful of all English counties (IMO)... Dorset.

Game fish... In England... I wish! :chuckle:

We have the European bass (Dicentrarchus labrax) which is a stripeless Striper really, only smaller. Here's a picture of me with a decent sized specimen for the U.K

http://static.flickr.com/26/44295331_9d33dd2a4c.jpg

OC
04-13-2006, 11:21 PM
Thanks for the pic Steveo. I can't decide if it is a good looking fish or not but it does look plenty hardy and a puller. Those big eyes makes me think she is a night feeder.
How do they taste baked or better yet baked in milk? Mnnnn they look good.

Stevo
04-14-2006, 03:55 AM
How do they taste baked or better yet baked in milk?


I have only ever tasted one and that was nearly ten years ago. It was OK - but I prefer Mackerel, freshly smoked, an hour after capture on my own fish smoker with a touch of oak dust... Mmmmmm!

Guernseybass
04-14-2006, 02:04 PM
I can't decide if it is a good looking fish or not .

i think they generally are good looking fish - Stevo's is just ugly :chuckle:

http://www.swff.co.uk/bass210605.JPG http://www.swff.co.uk/firstbass.jpg

the darker ones like Steves fish tend to live over rocks and the more silvery ones over sand.

Mark.

OC
04-14-2006, 04:03 PM
Where do these bass go in Winter? Do they migrate south along the coast of France down to Spain or Africa? Are they found as far north as the Baltics?

One more question about your SW fishing, I find it interesting and it must be fun to have found new places to fly fish. Has anyone there gone off shore looking for Tuna? I can't remember how far out the stream is I think you guys call it the N. Atlantic current.

And what about Atlantic Salmon in the salt? I loved reading Salar the Salmon especially about his trip home and his journey along the coast, feeding to the moonlight watching for ever present danger. They must feed on top from time to time. Would you be allowed to C&R for them?

Ok it is a nice looking fish but I think you guys need to start looking for the 20 pounders!:devil:

Stevo
04-14-2006, 04:09 PM
the darker ones like Steves fish tend to live over rocks and the more silvery ones over sand.

Just to be contrary (well the fish is anyway)

A silvery one, caught over rocks!

http://static.flickr.com/52/128526390_7bb5ca38dc.jpg

clouser UK
04-16-2006, 11:26 AM
Where do these bass go in Winter? Do they migrate south along the coast of France down to Spain or Africa? Are they found as far north as the Baltics?

One more question about your SW fishing, I find it interesting and it must be fun to have found new places to fly fish. Has anyone there gone off shore looking for Tuna? I can't remember how far out the stream is I think you guys call it the N. Atlantic current.

And what about Atlantic Salmon in the salt? I loved reading Salar the Salmon especially about his trip home and his journey along the coast, feeding to the moonlight watching for ever present danger. They must feed on top from time to time. Would you be allowed to C&R for them?

Ok it is a nice looking fish but I think you guys need to start looking for the 20 pounders!:devil:

Hi OC
I'm sure someone with a better grasp of the facts will jump in and correct me,
but i'll have a go at answering your questions.
The Bass mostly tend to head to the Channel islands end of the English Channel to breed and the French (amongst others ) take a large share of the breeding stock , tons of fish are harvested evrey year. The millions of juvenile fish that do come back are then subjected to more over fishing all round our coastline. The prefered size is unfortunately only 14" and we are now trying to get that increased to 17 1/2 " but despite the benifits for all , we are finding it a hard struggle.
I don't know if i'm allowed to post a link , but here goes http://ukbass.com/index.html

They are fairly wide spread around the UK and along the French and Dutch coasts and are now being caught as far up the North sea as Norway.
My usual stamp of fish last year was between 8" and 18", there are bigger fish about but they are hard to find......when you consider my first Cape fish went 27 1/2 " You can see why we enjoy fishing in the States.:smokin:
All Striper flies work on our fish...sometimes just a bit smaller .

As you might know there was a thriving Tuna fishery in the North sea in the 1930's. but the decline of the vast Herring shoals saw the end of that run of fish.
They have been reported off the Irish coast , but i'm not sure how far out .....and recently reports of Bonito ( i think ) were also coming from Ireland, so that may be a possibility.

I'm affraid i can't help you with the Salmon side of things , but as far as i know they don't get fished for in the salt by rod and line.

Hope some of that helps.


Dave:)

capt_gordon
04-16-2006, 08:45 PM
The fish are nice looking, it's just Stevo's face in the photo's that ruin them.:razz: :chuckle:

jamie
04-18-2006, 04:09 AM
Fly Fishing Forum the beer

http://www.griffithscentral.com/images/thebeer.jpg

http://www.griffithscentral.com/images/cast.jpg

flydoc
04-18-2006, 09:24 PM
Jamie- we'll have to introduce you to this local brew the next time you jump the pond- named in honor of Sir Ernest Shackleton (the beer is named after his ship, and his mate Tom Crean is on the label) and his crew. The label reads "Explore. Challenge. Drink great beer." Words to live by, indeed!
Flydoc

jamie
04-19-2006, 02:58 PM
Always up for sampling beer Doc, especially if it is on prescription.

sean
04-19-2006, 07:58 PM
Stevo is famous!

My wife just retuned from a job interview in Dublin and brought me back a copy of Today's Flyfisher. In the UK saltwater section I noticed a familiar picture of stevo and a nice bass. Sweet!

-sean

ps. The interviews went well. I may be fishing for bass in ireland soon:Eyecrazy:

jamie
04-20-2006, 04:20 AM
Sssssshhhh Sean, some hombre's and I have been busy buying up all the copies of the mag, so that Steve does not find out. We've been telling him that there was a misprint in Waste Compactor Monthly (circulation 317), where they meant to show a picture of the new Soopa Hydra-Compakta 3000, and accidentally got the wrong shot.

He is now the editor of the Bass Anglers' Sportfishing Society magazine and has issued a statement that only pictures which include his likeness in at least 20% of the shot will be printed.

Some great bass fishing in Ireland Sean, pretty decent freshwater stuff too.

Stevo
04-20-2006, 03:58 PM
Blimey, I've only been away for a few days and just look what you rascals have been up too... Slanderous comments and all! :biggrin:

Sean, It would be great if you did get to Ireland (Eire) to fish. I can put you in contact with the right people, to get you a few of our Bass, Pollack and maybe Mullet. The Better times to go are Sept/Oct, generally.

Jamie... To late, I got sent two copies from Tim Smith! :razz:

juro
04-20-2006, 04:26 PM
I used to call Dave17 "GQ" flyfisher... before that it was definitely Nick Svencer, or at least that's what the ladies told me.

Now with this, I crowne thee Stevo - Mr.GQ Flyfisher of 2006 (loud cheer)!

http://flyfishingforum.com/miscellaneous/GQ.jpg

Guernseybass
04-21-2006, 11:19 AM
:chuckle:

seriously though don't encourage him Juro, he's bad enough already - as anyone who witnessed this smooth line in the Squire to two local ladies wil agree :

" Hi I'm Stevo - from Hampshire....... old hampshire " :tsk_tsk:

:razz:

Mark.

juro
04-21-2006, 11:24 AM
oh he's SMOOOTH...

I tried that.... hi I'm Juro from COWHAMPSHIRE... I mean... dOh

Stevo
04-21-2006, 06:48 PM
Very good guys. I remember Nemo getting chatted up in the squire too... Only, by a geezer! :eek: :hihi:

juro
04-22-2006, 08:17 AM
Did he have any earrings? :lildevl:

Guernseybass
04-24-2006, 05:50 AM
Did he have any earrings? :lildevl:

no but his wife did. they both seemed very interested in poor Kieran. :whoa: