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: Twinkiefest started


juro
04-05-2006, 08:02 AM
Well got a couple emails and calls from friends that the twinkiefest is on, percentage of holdovers and percentage fresh non-spawners arriving on the soundside south.

I recall one year (90's) when I happened to be down at the cottage fixing something with my father in law when I popped over to the mouth of the bass river and it was exploding with new arrivals, well before tax deadline day. The largest I landed that day was around 28" and it ran amok in the ebb current.

It doesn't take a crystal ball to see that this is going to be an early year with all the herring around already and sea lice on the twinkies. Once the breeders get done down south we should see them jumping on the herring, that will cure my tarpon and bonefish withdrawl symptoms. I am not much into the twinkies but I love that first big THUD and the backing ripping out from a spring herring eater.

Spring clave should be phenomenal! :smokin:

jfbasser
04-05-2006, 12:39 PM
I have a rule about Twinkies.... I only fish for them when it is snowing:devil:

juro
04-05-2006, 01:59 PM
Can you believe this SH*T!! :Eyecrazy: :confused: :mad:

(snowing here all day)

CascoBay
04-05-2006, 03:06 PM
I have heard through the grapevine that the spawners didn't all head to Cheasapeake bay this year, that water temps were such that they spawned in the Southern jersey estuaries and rivers. Has anyone else heard anything to this effect? It would help in the theory, no wait Fact, that this will be an early season!:lildevl:

Adrian
04-05-2006, 03:43 PM
Hudson fish spawn when water temps get up around 50F and I don't think we're there yet.....

striperstripper
04-05-2006, 04:42 PM
There might of been a small group breeding in Jersey,just like the population of Kennebec river stripers that spawn every year and the smaller group in Canada that is said to have a breeding population,the main large population of stripers will and always will since the beginning of time do their thing in the cheasapeake.Unless man continues to screw things up and pollute and wipe out the menhaden.(sorry had to throw that in there.):tsk_tsk:

flydoc
04-05-2006, 05:33 PM
Unless man continues to screw things up and pollute and wipe out the menhaden.(sorry had to throw that in there.):tsk_tsk:

In that case we had better mount the "twinkie defense"!:hihi:
Flydoc

bonefishmon
04-05-2006, 09:07 PM
Hard to tell where they are from but surface busting fish with birds all over them have been reported on Sunday on a beach not far from here. This may be a whacky spring start! Keep the reports coming.

Phil

striperstripper
04-05-2006, 09:29 PM
Any time after the first week of April the twinkies can show up, 1999 and 2000 according to my fishing logs had twinkies fresh with sea lice in the upper creeks of Cape Cod Bay the 2nd week of april,those were very mild winters,but still even with the those mild winters it wasn't until the first week of May that the big breeders showed in the canal chasing the herring,right about the same time those lilacs bloom.:hihi:

bonefishmon
04-06-2006, 06:13 AM
it wasn't until the first week of May that the big breeders showed in the canal chasing the herring,right about the same time those lilacs bloom.:hihi:[/QUOTE]

Those Lilacs are blooming down here right now!

Phil

juro
04-06-2006, 07:49 AM
Cherry blossoms = big girls are here.

FishHawk
04-06-2006, 08:03 AM
Perhaps some of the fish we catch are really from local rivers which have a large holdover populations. Wonder why the scientists haven't put tracking devices on some of the larger fish in the Fall and see where they go? Perhaps it has already been done. This is a good thing as the Chesapeake Bay has some real problems.
It's all about the bait fish and water temperature. Effects of Global warming?
FishHawk just my .02

Guernseybass
04-06-2006, 10:22 AM
It's all about the bait fish and water temperature. Effects of Global warming?
FishHawk just my .02

is the water temperature currently warmer than average for this time of year ?

Mark

juro
04-06-2006, 10:40 AM
http://marine.rutgers.edu/cool/sat_data/?product=sst&region=capecod&nothumbs=0

striperstripper
04-06-2006, 04:48 PM
Depending on the variety ,and or location the lilac and cherry trees blossom from the last week of April to the first 2 weeks of May ,south eastern Mass. and Cape Cod is usually the first 2weeks of May.Either way the big girls usually don't show until early May.:hihi: :Eyecrazy:

striperstripper
04-06-2006, 05:03 PM
Water temperture plays an important role as to when stripers spawn,I believe it has to be somewhere in the 60's before they start to spawn in the Hudson river system,so that will be in May after a normal winter ,the cheasapeake warms to these temps earlier so I would think they breed earlier,but they also won't enter cold water to migrate north after they have spawned.In 2003 I was fishing a creek on the upper cape with Dr.David Ross of woodshole institute,this was late May with very few fish of size around,he mentioned there was a large slug of very cold water off of Long Island and the sound which the fish would not go through,about a week later we had some strong storms come up the coast which helped move this water out ,not much after the bigger fish started to show.

Paxton
04-06-2006, 09:21 PM
Juro...no pun intended, that ocean temp site is "cool"!!!! Now we have no need to stick various body parts in the water to check for temps :)
Interesting how the tub is the warmest water and Monomoy about 4 to 5 degrees colder. Always knew that, but nice to see the temp paterns of the area.
Now......if this site corrolates with blooming lilacs...I do believe that you are onto something:smokin:
Will keep your site as a future reference.
Thanks, Ron