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QuebecSporting
02-20-2006, 07:50 PM
Bonsoir,

It's so, so cold here..

A little fishing is always good for the mind!!

Situation:

X = where you stand
Spey rods only!
Big 30+ pounders right across :roll:

http://www.QuebecSporting.com/Photos/P_catch.JPG

How will you catch them??

A..

juro
02-20-2006, 08:13 PM
1) Move up to point and get better hang down angle

2) left hand double spey / skagit cast and tension on a big upriver mend

3) long high swing over current from gravel on far shore

(sorry only #2 is from X)

OC
02-20-2006, 10:09 PM
Your a way better fly fisher than I am if you can swing a fly from X. So my solution is:

Wait for those 30 pounders to move up to the next run where I have planted my butt well before the sun came up.:hihi:

Gardener
02-21-2006, 05:40 AM
I agree with Juro' s solution 1.

There appears to be a backwater in front of you when you're standing at 'X'. Very hard to achieve nice presentation fishing over that, even with a long rod. Crossing the river and fishing off the shingle bank is a possibility, but you're trying to fish across the fast water, which will tend to whip the fly away from the fish even with mending. I almost always prefer to fish a fly from fast water into slow.

If you move upstream you can use the length of the rod to hang the fly out in the current, fishing round the top of the backwater and presenting it under control. Could be interesting when you hook a fish, though - following it downstream over those rocks!

Green Ghost
02-21-2006, 08:49 AM
By all means forget position X and swing the fly from the fast to the slow water. A single handed rod can reach these fish but a low profile by the angler is required. By the looks of the water, the water appears high so a larger fly may be the order of the day. Cast accross the white water and mend upstream to slow the fly right in front of their noses with a short swing. If nothing happens, Strip it from behind them and over their heads. Rest the pool between flies. As a last resort, Throw out a really big Bomber (even skitttered). One thing for sure is a rise or a hookup in that current is going to be exciting!:chuckle:

OC
02-21-2006, 11:38 AM
Only having been Atlantic Salmon fishing once I can only use my Steelhead experience as a guide. Will an Atlantic Salmon come up to a bomber in that deep pool? The pool looks very deep from thousands of years of a back eddy. If the fish were holding where Anne shows they would be right on the bottom to escape most of the fast water. If I stood on X and tried with a sink tip and cast to the top of the back eddy so line and fly sunk deep enough as the line went down river to where the fish are holding I would be very worried about what looks like a shadow of a very large rock just up from the second closest fish to the X mark. It also looks very difficult to cast a single hander in that spot and get a down stream mend in the eddy so the fly is not being pulled upstream. Wish I knew more of casting for Atlantics but I do know that many years ago when I started fly fishing for Steelhead I used to try such water like the picture shows and only met with frustration. I bet if you hooked a 30 pounder on the edge of that fast water that he would sulk for a bit before heading back to the safe waters of open ocean.

Green Ghost
02-21-2006, 03:21 PM
As I said, as a last resort after several Wet Flies, Try a big Bomber. The salmon will come 15 to 20 feet for a bomber but usually not in water this fast. BUT, Stranger things have happened.

I still prefer to Hang the fly over their noses as suggested by Gardener and others from Upstream Off the top of the rapids. I would remain back to make sure I wasn't standing on top of the fish. I'd hold my Rod tip High to try and achieve control and may mend up and or downstream depending on how the waves in the eddy are moving the fly. I agree that a fly going upstream "pulling Upstream" is not ideal. Then again, my second approach of stripping the fly up from behind them will do just that anyhow AND THEY MIGHT CHASE IT!.

Regardless of the method, I would not use a sinking line or a sinking tip line to try and coax an Atlantic Salmon to take during the summer. They do just fine coming to the fly on their own without having to place the fly near their mouths. An explosive strike on a fast moving fly - Just imagine that! :whoa:

QuebecSporting
02-21-2006, 11:02 PM
so a larger fly may be the order of the day
Hmm??

Green Casper (oops.Ghost!!)

So what wet fly are we talking about here? :Eyecrazy:

http://www.QuebecSporting.com/Photos/les_mouches.jpg

Any of the above.? :D

Tyer: Charlie...


A..

Green Ghost
02-22-2006, 09:16 AM
The Magog Smelt Would be one of them is the water is high. A # 2 Double Silver Rat might do as well, Then again I might choose a big Spring Streamer Fly for the stripping part. By all means Several Flies with rest in between. It is still is going to be difficult to get one of them to show even once. An yes, the secret weapon will go swimming! :cool:

QuebecSporting
02-24-2006, 10:41 AM
Could be interesting when you hook a fish, though - following it downstream over those rocks!


Well, f you are stuck on that rock and can't follow your catch....

This could happen

http://www.QuebecSporting.com/Photos/Pete4.jpg

GreenGhost...
I am still trying to find out what your secret weapon is... :tsk_tsk:

hmmmmmm?? is GreenGhost...a fly???

But, you seem more like the Green Machine type ... :D
( am I close?)

Have a great weekend!!

A..

GPearson
03-03-2006, 12:53 AM
Hi Ann,

I finally got a fish from that pool. Usually they all just flip me the fin there but this time i just walked up and made 2 or so casts and got one. I was standing on the next rocky point up from your X and only cast about 25' with a single hander and a #4 Green Pearl.

I like being lucky and finding the dumb ones.

Greg

QuebecSporting
03-03-2006, 11:02 AM
I like being lucky and finding the dumb ones.

:confused:

What a beauty!!

A.. :rolleyes: