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: Tying Temple Dog Style Tube Flies


Charlie
12-21-2005, 07:46 AM
Lately there has been a great interest in tube flies and how to tie them, especially some of the European style flies such as the Temple Dog. Therefore I thought I would give some basic instructions on tying the temple dog as they were taught to me by some of my friends in Denmark & Finland. They are not difficult to tie as you will see.

I am not going to step through tying the body on this fly because I figured most of you have tied bodies on flies before and doing it on a tube is no more difficult than doing it on a hook. So this is what I will start with. The fly is the Orange and Green Temple Dog and the pattern is as follows.

Tip: Oval Silver Tinsel
Tag: Florescent Yellow Antron
Tail: Florescent Yellow Antron
Body: First 1/2 Green holographic Tinsel; second Black seal fur or sub.
Body Hackle: Silver Badger
Rib: Oval Silver Tinsel
Hackle: Black Cock Hackle
Wing: Orange Fox or Tempeldog Hair, red and pearl flash, 3 to 5 peacock herls, and Black Fox or Tempeldog Hair on top.
Hackle: Black cock hackle
Cheeks: Jungle cock
Head: Black thread

Charlie
12-21-2005, 07:46 AM
Next tie in a stiff silver badger hackle directly in front of the body.

Charlie
12-21-2005, 07:47 AM
This will help to support and stand up the wing in the characteristic high style of the templedog.

Charlie
12-21-2005, 07:51 AM
Next, tie in a small bunch of orange fox or templedog hair.

Note to tier; when tying in the wing make each successive application of the winging material slightly longer than the last. This will give the wing of the fly its characteristic teardrop shape.

Charlie
12-21-2005, 07:51 AM
Tie some Red and pearl flash on top of the Hair.

Charlie
12-21-2005, 07:52 AM
Tie in 3 to 5 strands of peacock herl.

Charlie
12-21-2005, 07:52 AM
Tie in a stiff black cock hackle.

Charlie
12-21-2005, 07:53 AM
Next, tie in a small bunch of black fox or templedog hair.

Charlie
12-21-2005, 07:53 AM
Tie in a Jungle cock nail on either side of the fly and finish the head.

Speyladdie
12-21-2005, 10:12 AM
Hi Charlie.
Nice job on the tubes.
If you would like to learn more about tubes and their materials drop me an e-mail at nhoulding@rogers.com and I will get you in touch with my friend Toni K from Finland.
He has been tying tubes for a number of years now and because he is one of the Guideline reps he has the opportunity to tie with Hakan Norling.The original Templedog man.
Speyladdie. :smokin:

juro
12-21-2005, 11:33 AM
Nice and nasty! Would bring out the beast in a salar submarine for sure, thanks for the great sequence and photography.

(I think I will try a few of these on my spring steelhead trip out west as well)

Charlie
12-21-2005, 02:38 PM
Thanks guys,

Neal, I just may take you up on that offer. I think my TD's are passable but there is great room for improvement.

Juro, we need to develop some color combinations for steelhead fishing for the Templedog's.

Charlie

BLACK FRANCIS
12-22-2005, 07:32 AM
this is my attempt at making a big lake erie trib version. i did the two hackles at the front insted of the palmer on the first. i will have to try one the other way as well. actic fox for both wings and bodi-works flat holo braid for the body. let's see some more versions.

wilson
01-06-2006, 07:18 PM
Nice work, both of them.

Can I ask a completely ignorant kinda question. What exacly is Temple Dog? I've only seen one flavor and that was a natural black with light tips, tons of movement. But the orange in Charlies' Temple Dog looks more like fox.

If you can reveal your source send me a PM. I'm interested in making some more. I have a Mega-Picasse in mind with an Ostrich "Spey" hackle and a serious "get-down" cone head. Need some seriously long black hair for that one. Should be fun.

-Chris

BLACK FRANCIS
01-07-2006, 05:43 AM
hey Chris-
the original was just that, dog hair. Charlie may have a source for authentic stuff. if you can't get any look for long arctic fox tail or if you want really long try the icelandic sheep which you can usualy get up to about 6" length. wapsi markets sheep under the name streamer hair.

Youngpatawan
01-07-2006, 05:26 PM
Could you double over Icelandic sheep hair for a more fuller wing or would it build the head of the fly too much?

davidstrout
01-07-2006, 11:39 PM
In Tying The "FAt BAck Stlye" which is what these flies are (props to Frodin and Norling yo yo brooklyn) the taper is very important (Refering both to the actual ends of the wing material as well as the increasing legnths of the stepped or layered wing.

Using Icleandic sheep, LLAMa or other soft material it is imperative to tie it in reverse or you will have an enormous head (Unless of course you tie in and cut with a scalpel as detailed by MR Shumakov in step by step detailed on another site)

Also, what I believe you mean by doubled over is to have two simalar legnths from a single tie in.. the risk with this method is that where you cut the fur will have the "PAINTBRUSH" effect instead of the natural taper that this fly or stlye deserves.

DO some homework on Temple Dog Michael Frodin HAkan Norling PEATY MAnn Scandanavian Tube Flies etc on GOOGLE and you will find a wealth of information on this subject...some great posts on "SPEY PAGES" Too!

Enjoy... and by the way this style should not be relegated to tubes and fancy materials as simple bucktail and sheep patterns tied in this stlye on short shank hooks kill the albies and bass in the northeast

Droppem

sean
01-08-2006, 09:44 AM
Hmmm if you watch the new frodin video he does not tie these reverse any longer. Norling does but Frodin no longers sees the need. Templedog hair is so fine it does no create too large a head. Especially if you are using cone heads.

Interested in comments on stripers and albies. Can you share some patterns that have been successful for you.

-sean

Charlie
01-09-2006, 08:15 AM
Chris,

Check your PM's.

Charlie