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: Upgrade time!

10-18-2005, 03:02 PM
Having been a flyfisher for a little over 2 years now and only seriously the past year, I'm looking to upgrade my rods and reels. (the cheap stuff is on the way out!) The Pflueger Trion reels have caught my eye with seemingly a lot of value and performance for the money. Budget is my biggest factor and realize "you get what you pay for" but still want to have two decent reels, maybe matching Trions, in 3/4 weight for panfish and light Bass freshwater work and then at least a 7/8 wt for my annual Alaska trips for Silvers and other big Salmonids. Then there's two new rods issues to discuss as well but I want to address the reels at this point. My main Q is this : is the Trion 3/4 wt reel 'overkill' for panfish, bass and trout as well as the occasional 6-10 pound carp that may get on board? I'm thinking this reel seems fairly sturdy with a disc drag and good features. Any suggestions? Budget would be up to $500.00 for both reels and rods.

10-25-2005, 01:55 PM
Drags aren't needed for panfish, bass, or trout (unless we're talking lakers). But trying to match a reel that will see panfish and 6-10lb carp is really tough, never mind a rod that's good for that too! The rod/reel you use for silvers would be much better matched to small carp.

10-25-2005, 02:17 PM
I would suggest you dump some money into the Salmon setup and not worry too much about the panfish setup. Last thing you want is to blow all that money getting to AK only to have your gear get toasted early in the trip...

10-26-2005, 01:10 PM
yep, listening and learning sure beats buying and regretting. That's why I'm on board to get a better jump on the learning curve. The money into the Salmon setup is the logical upgrade. Especially since this past September's trip resulted in a whole lota knuckle bustin goin on! The large arbor, SA, graphite, 8wt reel I have has the offset brass disc drag and fully tightened down did not EVEN begin to slow the fish down when a rowdy Silver chomped and ran. Only burnt palms and busted knuckles kept me from being spooled sometimes. The reel sounded like a machine gun when it hit my fingers and an air hose hissing when I palmed it. WOW! The humpies, however, were easily manageable with this low dollar outfit. During a one hour session late in the day that week, I hooked 3 silvers and landed one, hooked and landed a big ole chum of about 15 pounds and 3 humpies in the 6 pound range all on ESL's or a black w. booger with pink beads under the body of the booger to act as an attractor and a keel weight and there were sockeye spawning right behind me but were busy and tired so I only watched them. So next year the primary reel will be something in machined aluminum with a big disc drag and the SA reel for back up.

10-26-2005, 02:26 PM
For the panfish/trout/bass setup, I'd look at one of the St Croix packages. You get great bang for your buck. A 8'6 or 9' 5 wt would handle all those species fine, and could handle a carp if you had to. You should also look at one of the inexpensive Cortland packages. I actually recently went back to a Cortland rod I've had for over 15 years for my bass fishing. It's an 8' 5/6 wt and it really casts effortlessly. It might be the best casting rod I've ever used, better than my $450 Orvis and $350 Albright. I'm not kidding... It's a rocket and my arm never gets tired... :)

Are you looking to spend $500 total for all 4 items (two reels, two poles)?

10-26-2005, 09:59 PM
For Silvers an 8 weight TFO Ticr and Trion 8/9 with a RIO versatip line around $400 great setup and casts like a dream. For ths pan fish Try a TFO series one 4 weight and use one of your older reels and lines. The series one is not pretty but it also casts like a dream with a slower action than the Ticr.
Total cost $500

10-27-2005, 08:49 AM
Scott and Ian,

Thanks again for offering good choices to consider. It's funny(or not) but on my current 8 wt rig I think I spent more on the Orvis Wonderline than on the reel. Haven't tried a Cortland rod yet but have used the lines. Currently I'm bidding on that mega auction site for both a Plueger Trion 8 wt reel and some TFO rods. There is also neat, used, 2 pc, Powell Light Touch, 9 ft, 4 wt with a Full Wells grip that is EXACTLY what I would build for light duty freshwater. The ding-dang other bidders keep bumping me off! LoL!

10-29-2005, 10:36 AM
I am a huge fan of the Ross Rythym reel:


It is inexpensive, built like a tank!!! and has the same drag system as the Ross evolution. the only difference with the evolution is it is a bit heavier (but that also means it is sturdier)

For a smaller rod, I have a Sage FLI, and I love it. Only around $250.

For a larger rod, go with a G-Loomis GL3, around $290, or the G-Loomis crosscurrent 3 piece, around $355.