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: Bone flies


T.J.
05-29-2005, 02:08 PM
If you had to have 3 flies to fish for bonefish, what would they be. Lets also see some pics. :)

josko
05-29-2005, 05:49 PM
Gotcha and a light tailing fly, which for me is bit of chenille arounf a hook, one grizzly feather, a bit of craft fur and 2 strands of Crystal flash. (bite those 2 off n bright still days).
Third fly? Not sure. Maybe a small skinny shrimp fly.

JusBones
05-30-2005, 08:52 AM
Dorseys Kwan.....Mini Puff.....Bonefish Special........

juro
05-30-2005, 09:38 AM
I second what Josko said... most of the fish I have caught have been on gotchas in a wide range of situations but I tried some moderately large shrimp flies from Drew at tightlines flyfishing that had some real 'animal magnetism' for cruising bones. The third essential fly was a weightless tailing pattern that Adrian got from the Peace and Plenty that was deadly in skinny water for spooky tailers.

Subtle tan gotchas with a little pearl emphasis on the hook shaft, maybe a dull pink head; furry pink shrimp not too bright with melted eyes and prominent tentacles / claws; and anything that looks tasty that splashes down lightly but can get into eyeshot of the tailing fish in time for a strip or two to prove it's food.

T.J.
05-30-2005, 11:00 AM
That peace and plenty sounds nice. Im gonna be at islas mujeres and from what ive heard those fish are spooky. :mad:

petevicar
05-30-2005, 11:15 AM
Hi TJ
I think your question is perhaps a little dificult to answer without specifying the location.
On grassy flats like in the Keys I would use tasty toads (Kwans), merkins and Chernobil crabs.
On Sandy flats like most of the Bahamas, Ascesion Bay, Cuba I would use Gotchas, Crazy Charlies and Shallow H2Os.
There are some locations which have both and if you only have 3 flies I would use Gotchas, Kwans and merkins some heavy and some lightweight.
Where are you going?

Pete

T.J.
05-30-2005, 11:29 AM
Well im 16 and my friend and his family asked if I wanted to go with them to Isla Mujeres. Im going in 3 weeks. Its right off the coast of Cancun. Ill can only bring my 8wt. Can you catch small cudas with an 8wt? Im expecting to see some bones, jacks, and cudas, but im not sure.

SteelBoneguy
05-31-2005, 11:06 AM
My experience which is limited, I would say gotcha of some sorts, clouser, and crab pattern.

petevicar
05-31-2005, 01:10 PM
Hi T.J.
I have not fished Isla Mujeres but have been to Ascenscion Bay a few times and I have also fished north of Cancun at a place called Isla Blanca.
To catch bonefish around there use smallish Gotchas size 6. The are always permit around, use a merkin.
If you get a chance to fish around magroves there will probably be snook and baby tarpon around. Use some sort of baitfish imitation size 1/0 or my favourite a red/white seaducer.
You will probably be OK with an 8wt.
There will probably be lots of different types of fish around if you find places without people.
When are you going?

Pete

Adrian
05-31-2005, 01:30 PM
I second the merkin advice also. When I fished Ascention bay I did very well with small merkin style crabs on bonefish and it was nice to know I was ready for a shot at a permit when they came by. Add Gotcha in smaller sizes as Pete recommends and the weightless fly - its called a Pflueger Hoy - a search through the archives should find it.

You can also find a complete series of bonefish patterns with pics that John Morin posted a year or two ago.

You can catch anything with your 8wt - landing it might be interesting :lildevl: Seriously, unless it's very windy you should be fine. Just make sure you have plenty of backing on your reel (min 200yds).

For Barracuda my favorite fly is a simple surf-candy style pattern - skinny, 6 to 8 inches long on a 2/0 hook, with ultra hair. It's about the only material that I've found stands up to more than a single hit from a 'cuda. They have incredibly bony mouths that seem to be 99% teeth. Most conventional materials get ripped to shreds even on a hit without a hook-up. If you target them use a short wire bite tippet and make sure you can safely land and unhook them - keep your fingers (and any other body parts) well clear - they are lighning fast and even the small ones can do some serious damage. Casting to them whilst any part of your body is in the water is not recommended. But they are also a lot of fun and can save the day when not much else is showing.

rogerstg
05-31-2005, 05:38 PM
I fished Isla Blanca last April. The permit did not care about my merkin, but they committed suicide over my kwan fly. Due to high winds I got 5 good shots at permit all day. The first two were with the merkin: both were refused. A barracuda stole it and I switched to the Kwan. I hooked permit on the next three shots, and landed two.

The kwan also worked very well on Cozumel bones, though my guide thought I was nuts for using such a large fly - he likes rubber legged gotchas on 8s. By the end of the trip he was asking about the fly - I gave him my supply.

T.J.
06-01-2005, 10:44 AM
Awesome thanks guys. Im gonna go after whatever is biting. :smokin:

T.J.
06-01-2005, 10:55 AM
We are also going deep sea fishing and the we are going to an island to fish. Do yall think it would be wise to bring my fly rod on those trips. Can I even catch something with an 8 off shore. What about lemon fish.

Adrian
06-01-2005, 11:23 AM
If you dont bring your rod you will probably wish you had so I would take it anyway. Unless fish are on the surface close to the boat it will get boring blind casting into the vast expanse of deep blue very quickly. But, if you drop some chum over the side you never know what might show up. I would expect to see a few needlefish and who knows whatelse - that's the great thing about fishing in the ocean - you just never know what's going to show up next :smokin:

T.J.
06-03-2005, 12:23 PM
Awesome. Thanks you guys. :)

teflon_jones
06-06-2005, 01:29 PM
My 3 flies would be tan sili legs gotchas. By far my favorite fly! :)