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: Big Brother Day

05-23-2005, 04:38 PM
Discussions for this year's day for the kids are underway. Ideally for me it will be on Father's Day weekend, either Sat or Sun.

I will keep you posted - PLEASE CONSIDER GIVING 1/2 DAY to this most important of Forum events.

05-24-2005, 09:02 AM
I'm in. Father's day sounds good.

05-24-2005, 09:33 AM
I'm in for Father's Day. Let me know what I can do. I was thinking we should start a fly gathering initiative to fill some boxes this year. Nothing huge. Maybe 2 per little. Can we still get boxes from Nick?


05-24-2005, 09:59 AM
If I can be on the Cape that week-end I'll definitely be there.

I have a potential business trip in June that would require a Sunday departure - I will try to steer it away from BBD!

05-24-2005, 04:21 PM
I'm in. Rain or shine for this one. Will we have more fishing time this year? We haven't had much actual fishing time in previous years though that may be all the boys are up for.

05-24-2005, 06:43 PM
Date is set for Sat June 18th, 20 pairs max (big+little=pair) so keep the volunteers coming! Off to a good start - 5, but we need more.

Sandwiches from Chatham Village Cafe', Rip Ryder rides, Monomoy Wildlife Refuge tour for the kids, and of course we will have our team-building session for the rest of the day out there. Fate usually smiles on us for giving a little time to the kids.

We have several spin outfits to complement the fly rods. We have a high tide mid-day so should not have to walk very far :smokin:

Please consider participating. This is how you can give something back if you have enjoyed or benefited from the Forum.

05-24-2005, 08:11 PM
I'll try to make it this year. I'd like to be there for the whole weekend if possible. Hope the weather warms up a little by then! I can bring a spin rod (if it still works :lildevl: ) and some of those sluggo things. I'll also have a few extra flies for the fly boxes.

Looking forward to it!


05-25-2005, 06:28 AM
I'll be there, and plan on one or more of my boys to assist. I can't keep up with their schedules, but they both like to share with kids.

05-25-2005, 07:28 AM
Unfortunately, I'll be away for that weekend. This spring has been nutso. I have changed jobs, but still have contacts back at my last place. I'm pretty sure I could pull together plenty of boxes for this.

I am disappointed that I can't make this as it really is one of those awesome yearly events in life.

05-25-2005, 07:38 AM
Nick -

We'll miss you this year but it's been great having you participate in years past and thanks for seeing about the boxes.

Jim, Q -

AWESOME! See you there.

05-25-2005, 08:26 AM
Saturday 18th means I'm definitely in :smokin:

I can bring spin gear also - might need a bit of coaching myself though :lildevl: and a few flies for the boxes. I was sorry to miss it last year.

05-25-2005, 09:31 AM

I will make sure that I make the event to help you with your spin gear :)

Custom Penn Squiddah casting lessons at the Light at dawn :D

05-25-2005, 08:50 PM

I will confirm next week, right now 80-20 yes. I will work on 100%.


06-01-2005, 08:21 PM
I'm in . Let me know what I can do.


06-05-2005, 03:36 PM
I'm definately in! let me know if you want me to bring more than one spin rig, I can bring 4 or 5 if needed. Tom D

06-07-2005, 12:13 PM
Just wanted to bump this thread up so it would bold up for those who are still considering volunteering. It looks like we have 10-12 volunteers which is much better than last year but we could certainly use more.


With us less than two weeks out is there anything you need help with?


06-07-2005, 01:30 PM
Thanks Sean -

I'd better get ahold of BB staff (Heather and Daisy) before I answer that question. Also, I'll have to contact the Monomoy Refuge staff to see what else needs to be done in this final two weeks.

Also great news - my daughter and her boyfriend are also going to participate this year. This will be my daughter's second year.

I will let you know what I find out from BB and the refuge staff.

06-07-2005, 03:07 PM
Cara will be joining us again this year as well to assist with whatever non-fisher related things need...well...assisting.

06-07-2005, 06:54 PM
Spoke with Heather today by phone... we are going to take the kids over at lunchtime instead of morning this year.

They will do the treasure hunt and refuge tour first, then meet for lunch and fish in the afternoon.

This will give us an opportunity to 'scout' in the morning and set up boot camp on the beach. The kids will have more time to fish and we'll be more informed on where to take them after having checked things out in the AM.

A few notes:

- Rip Ryder is generously donating rides for the kids again as they do every year
- lunch is provided thanks to Big Brothers Association

We will need to talk about preparing the participation awards (flyboxes usually) and have a general plan on how to match up with the pairs (big+little=pair) based on the mentors we can recruit from the Forum membership.

As usual we'll have to mind the obvious safety rules -

- no hooks on training setups
- eye protection during casting practice
- no fly casting in crosswinds, cast with wind on off-shoulder only
- no barbs on any hooks, fly or spin
- spin rods for those who can not manage fly
- mentor casts and let boys strip retrieve where it makes sense
- avoid surf and steep shorelines in sand
- plenty of sunblock and/or layered clothing for marine air

Let's show these guys what we're made of!

06-09-2005, 10:34 PM
ok, I'm assuming we'll all be getting there early for some scouting, right? Tom D

06-09-2005, 10:40 PM
Juro please let me know what I can do to help.

06-13-2005, 08:37 AM
Is only 5 days away. Do we know when and where to meet? How about the treats for the kids? Do we have an official headcounts from Big Brother and us so we can figure out roughly what the coverage will look like. Has anyone been in contact with Nick in regards to the boxes or have we missed the mark on that one? I will be happy to take the lead on any of this just not sure what has been done. Although I could not make it to Boston for the boxes if that is still an option.


06-13-2005, 09:24 AM
Sean -

I should have cc'ed you - BB, Keith and I have been emailing but we need to confirm with the refuge staff (bad email addr).

I will check the box count from last year, I think we might have enough. If not we'll do something else or one of us who can get there can make a run to Medford if necessary.

Should be no more than 20 pairs. Question is do we have enough mentors? I will bring three flyrods and I have some spin gear from last year.

Lunches are set. Boat rides for the kids are set (thank you Rip Ryder!).

I vote that we meet at dawn at the lighthouse. :cool:

06-13-2005, 09:42 AM

No problem on the cc. Glad to hear things are shaping up. I think a fly or two along with sweedish fish in the box was great last year. Where did you find the sweedish fish? Can you get them again? If we don't have the boxes we could certainly get away with a ziplock bag. I am planning on bringing the boat and making it a full weekend so I may not be at the light. That was part of my thinking on the meeting time. I will most likely launch from Saquatucket around dawn and do some recon in the tub that morning if I don't get side tracked around South Monomoy or the West Common flats :lildevl: . With a high about 10:30 we should have access to the edges in the afternoon for some productive blind casting. I can swing over to the refuge and help bring any gear over.


06-14-2005, 08:44 AM
I was thinking we should start a fly gathering initiative to fill some boxes this year.

It's a bit late but if you need any flys let me know. I can probably tie up a few before the weekend. I'll need to know patterns and sizes. And how I can get them to you.

I can't go. I have to carpool my kids around town to various activities...

06-14-2005, 08:52 AM
I'll be down Friday evening. I've tied up 10 flies that will look good in the boxes(New England Patriot pattern :lildevl: ).

I can tie more if required.

I'll be bringing fly and spin gear.

06-14-2005, 09:25 AM

Any chance of posting a pic of the Patriot flies. Sounds like a nice touch for the kids and maybe something we could duplicate.


06-14-2005, 10:14 AM
Daisy spoke with Monomoy staff Friday (Mike Brady). The kids will be on the refuge tour in the AM.

We will meet up for lunch, probably picnic style on SB. 'Boot camp' after lunch, then fishing until pick-up time (3:30?).

I plan to explore the lighthouse at dawn, then move to R/R at 8am to go over and set up boot camp 30 minutes before arrival.

Some of us should probably go over to the refuge to greet and help carry coolers etc. Another option would be a bridge street pick up of drinks and sandwiches in one of the private craft to avoid the stairs. Either way is fine I need the workout :)

Boxes - I will have to take a count tonight, didn't get to it last night. Will post status.

Swedish fish - my youngest daughter's idea (and a good one too). I need to see if she remembers where I got them :)

I will probably make up a "certificate" as well to put into the box.

One will have the winning fly in it for a rod/reel setup, which I need to pick up before then.

Catching should be good this year - bring cameras!!

06-14-2005, 01:39 PM
Update from Heather at Big Brothers:

Daisy spoke with Mike on Friday. He is going to call her today to confirm the schedule- if she does not hear from him early this afternoon, she will call to verify. As of now the schedule is for us to take the nature hike from 9-10:30.

I encourage Mike and you to talk directly about the specifics of the Monomoy Grant; BBMB will cover lunch (for everyone) and ferry rides (for both Bigs and volunteers.) I do not know what the stipulations are on the grant and what Mike is prepared to allocate towards the event itself or toward the Monomoy Wildlife Center in general.

We have 9 matches confirmed for the event. The email invitation will be sent to our active volunteers again tomorrow (the email goes to nearly 2000 people.) I would anticipate we will have several more matches sign up tomorrow and that 20 matches total is still a solid estimate.

Daisy will be in touch later today and in the coming days with any updates to the schedule or any other aspects of the event. The Chatham Café has changed ownership, however, it looks as though we will work a deal with them to order food for all.

Thanks Heather and Daisy! We'll make up for all your hard work by giving the kids a Father's Day weekend to remember.

If there is more to do at the refuge, then we'll meet later but if not then we can go over and do boot camp then. Break for a picnic lunch, then go fishing!

The 'graduation ceremony' will take place back at the refuge again in the afternoon. Evening angling for the mentor group, then dinner is planned.

06-15-2005, 12:31 AM

If needed I can the get boxes from Medford.


06-15-2005, 05:16 AM
Just wanted to post a mentor headcount:

Quentin (?)
CSJ60 (?)

That's 9 definites and 2 maybes.

Assuming 20 big/little pairs, it would be good to have more mentors to get us closer to a 1:1 match. The more individual attention each pair can get, the greater the chance of getting your kid hooked up, the bigger the smile!

Any others able to join us? We could use your help. If you haven't participated in the past, I highly recommend it. Means a lot to the kids and their big brothers. And is always very satisfying for the mentors.

Existing confirmed mentors, we might need to fire up the last minute recruitment engine. Consider this effort kicked off. If you are able to reel any others in, post your recruits here and I will update the headcount list.

06-15-2005, 07:24 AM
We also have Cara, my daughter and her boyfriend, possibly my son as well as helpers. It helps to have extra eyes to watch things when we are a little overloaded with four people each (two littles, two bigs) to attend to.

But Jeff is right - we could sure use some help!

06-15-2005, 08:08 AM

Any update on the boxes? I have been in contact with Nick and can most likely arrange a pickup if we need them. Please let me know ASAP as his schedule is very tight.


06-15-2005, 08:22 AM
Sean -

Yes, I counted them this AM before I had to dash. There are 19, and I can take one of my own to make 20.

However I would like to run down to grab a load from Nick's former employer for next year ASAP, but we don't need to do it between now and the weekend.

thanks for reminding me, I have a mid-day deadline and forgot as well... we all need to get easier day jobs :tongue:

06-15-2005, 08:26 AM
Here it is!

Not particularly original, but I thought the kids would get a kick out of it.

I toyed around with Red Sox (and New York Yankee :lildevl: ) patterns but, not the way they're playing right now :roll:
Body is red Bill's Body Braid.
Wing is three bucktail layers - Blue over Red over White with a bit of gold flash in the middle. Tied on a 2/0 about four inches long.

06-15-2005, 08:26 AM
Sounds good Juro. I will let Nick know.


06-15-2005, 09:06 AM
Juro Sean,

Glad to hear the box count is OK. We can restock the garages this summer I promise, even in the next few weeks for sure!


06-15-2005, 01:42 PM
do we still want fles for the boxes? if so what's needed? style and amount???

thanks, Tom D

06-15-2005, 01:47 PM

Last year we ended up doing just one fly per box with the Sweedish Fish and some other trinket, I think it was a wooden bobber. Juro then made up a certificate and put it in one of the boxes. The kid that had the box with the certificate won a entry level spinning outfit Juro had. I think Adrians Patriot flies look cool and will add a nice touch. I will tie up at least another 5 (edit need to make sure I have red bucktail!). Anyone else have the neccessary bucktail to tie up another 5 which added to Adrians 10 will give us the 20 we need? Any more than that seems like overkill.


06-16-2005, 07:54 AM
do we have a contigency date in case of poor weather?

sean, i think i have the materials to tie up a few more patriots.

06-16-2005, 09:12 AM
I did another 10 so we already have 20.

06-16-2005, 10:22 AM
I also tied up 5 last night except I had to use a red hackle instead. So it looks like we are all set on the fly front. Does look like rain on Saturday. Are we going regardless of rain as long as there is no lightning/strong winds? Hopefully the forecast will improve.


06-16-2005, 02:29 PM

Glad to announce that Alan Ardossy of Broadside International and his sons will be participating as well! Thanks Alan for pitching in.

Some of us (myself included) will fish the lighthouse from dawn until we meet the group at the lighthouse. They plan to arrive at 8:30, just perfect for getting the car out of the lot in time. Those who are not fishing should meet us there or at South Beach up until lunch (11:00-noon) where Rip Ryder drops us off.

We will escort the caravan to the causeway and the matches will attend the morning's planned activities at the refuge.

The forum mentors will go across and set-up boot camp at that time and will be over at the beach when the matches arrive for lunch.

I'd like will do a presentation/demo during lunch to get the kids thinking about "what is flyfishing?". Some of the other guys might want to do a demo as well, let me know if you are interested.

Then as the lunch wraps up, we'll go thru 'boot camp' and then the fun begins :)

We wrap up around 3:30p.



slight change of rain - NOAA
chance of rain - intellicast
chance of PM showers - weather channel

Sunday is supposed to be sunny. Maybe luck will be on our side and push the front thru a little faster, giving up part of Sunday's sunshine on Sat.

I would bring a raincoat or maybe I can find a business to donate those plastic ponchos for the kids.

No thundershowers are expected and the wind is light from the SW 3-9 mph.

May the pods push nervous water when the sun is dim, and when there are sun breaks let's hope for the mother of all pods to show these boys that fishing is very exciting!

06-16-2005, 02:39 PM

I will be on the boat Saturday a.m. Do you need me to meet you at the refuge to help transport gear over or should I just meet you at the drop off on South Beach?


06-16-2005, 03:06 PM
Sean -

I think bringing the gear over would be awesome, let me check with Daisy on logistics. Are you going to be on the Stage Hbr side? If so maybe it would be easier for sandwiches to be brought to Barn Hill.

06-16-2005, 03:20 PM

I will launching at Saquatucket so I can meet you at any of those locations. Just tell me when and where. I think you have my cell so give me a call if you want to firm things up.


06-16-2005, 05:31 PM
Just confirming that I am planning to be there Saturday (and Sunday and Monday :cool: ). I doubt that I'll beat the sunrise, but I'll try to be there in time for the 8:30 rendezvous at the light. If I'm late I'll take the next shuttle over to SB and meet you there. I'll have my 9wt and a light-tackle spinning outfit, along with enough sluggos to feed a few hungry bluefish.

Looking forward to it!


06-17-2005, 08:54 PM

Replied to your PM with my cell. I will check here before I leave tomorrow morning as well. Should be on the road by 3:00 a.m.


06-17-2005, 10:51 PM
If I knew you were taking the boat I would have followed you up, now I`m commited here.

06-18-2005, 08:09 AM
I wanted so very badly to make a contribution to this noble event but a family event today is keeping me home. Sister-in-law is a year older today. The look on those kids and their Big Brothers faces faces will be worth a thousand smiles! Hat off to all and may the weather Gods be with you all day!