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: Will "Crazy Glue"...Zap-A-Gap Damage Mason Hard Mono ?


JusBones
02-18-2005, 09:36 AM
I like the way Mason Hard Mono turns over....but....not easy (at least for ma and i am no expert) to tie due to thickness of the material....so I though a drop of glue may give me some piece of mind....also will floro carbon tippet cut the mason hard mono......the diameter to # test of the mason is not the best....pretty thick stuff....

Thanks

BigDave
02-18-2005, 10:03 AM
Not sure what knots you're tying but I use Mason and Rio hard mono for striper leaders up to 35# butt-section. I use 3-turn blood knots (5 turns won't work) and have never had one fail. For me the key is using only 3 turns and really snapping the knot when you tighten to seat it. I loop my FC tippet to this.

JusBones
02-18-2005, 10:06 AM
Yep, 3 turns is about all I can do. The FC loop makes sense.......using it to bone fish with......the diameter is killing me on size 6 and 8 hooks....and staying in the 10lb range.....thanks

BigDave
02-18-2005, 10:17 AM
We used 8# and 10# FC with size 8 bonefish flies last fall and it worked fine. We were using the "generation 2" stuff that has a ridiculous strength/diameter however.

The downside of the gen2 stuff is the small diameter makes connections to the leader tricky. I broke a few fish off right at the tippet knot which shouldn't happen. I'll be looping them next time.

Slinger
02-18-2005, 10:35 PM
I used to have a lot of problems with knots slipping, but I found some stuff called Loon UV Knot Sense. It comes in a tube and you put just a touch on your knot and expose it to sunlight and the UV rays cure the stuff in about 10 seconds, it dries just like epoxy, hard and clear. It can also be used for emergency repairs on the water, like reattaching an eye on a fly or sealing broken wraps. This year they even offer it in a little kit that contains a small UV penlight for use at night. I`ve had zero problems with knots since I found this.
Slinger

Slinger
02-20-2005, 12:45 AM
Dave flouro to mono connections are allmost a sure fire problem, they just don`t go togather. Even flouro from different manufactures can cause problems. It`s worth solving for the benifits of flouro tho. I can`t understand why people will spend thousands of dollars on an outfit and then pinch pennies when it comes to the bussiness end of the line.
Slinger

Roop
02-20-2005, 02:10 PM
You mean Mason for the butt section of a leader right? Why not just use heavier fluoro?

For mono to fluoro I use a uni to uni & have had no failures or you can go loop to loop as well

clouser UK
02-20-2005, 04:17 PM
Why not use flouro all through?
Find a good quality flouro you like and find out the knots that suit it, super glue or knot sense to secure it. If you must join to mono, use a loop to loop connection.
Since going over to flouro i don't use mono at all, once you find a good one, you don't want to go back.
All knots , mono or flouro, benifit from a drop of glue :) it can't hurt anyway!!

Dave :wink: