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Charlie
12-07-2004, 01:05 PM
Some new tube flies I'v tied up for the Great Lakes in winter.

Charlie

sean
12-07-2004, 01:28 PM
Awesome Charlie. Love the double bunny matukas. What material are you using for the top fly. Is that fluoro fiber?

-sean

Charlie
12-07-2004, 01:42 PM
Hey Sean,

It is SLF hanks, but now that you mention it I bet fluoro fiber would work great. Thanks for the great idea. I am allways looking for new ways to do things.

Charlie.

flytyer
12-07-2004, 01:58 PM
Like usual Charlie, very nice flies. The use of the unfettered double bunny wing on long flies (whether tubes, waddingtons, or long shanked hooks) is almost unheard of out here in the PNW. It is a very effective winging method though. Also, your use of traditional featherwing body and hackle methods with the non-traditional bunny or SLF wings produces what could easily be termed a "modern dee style".

MJC
12-07-2004, 01:59 PM
Those are great looking tubes! I have been using with good results some of Cascade's CCT Fiber in place of the SLF hanks.

Topher Browne
12-07-2004, 03:57 PM
Hi Charlie,

Make sure you fish those tubes on a floater, certainly nothing faster than an intermediate sink tip. They are far too nice to lose!

wilson
12-07-2004, 11:33 PM
Those are awesome!!! Be careful who you show your box to, you may find it missing.

Do you do reasonably well with them during the winter months?

Charlie
12-08-2004, 03:03 PM
Flytyer,

The use of the unfettered double bunny wing is not very common in the great lakes either, or the Atlantic coast for that matter. I just thought it looked good for this particular application. I also thought that since there has not been a great deal of tradition behind tube flies yet that people would not be to upset with me for doing it. Hell, you may have coined a new term with the “modern dee style” thing, in affect making a new tradition.

Glad the rest of you liked them too.

MJC,

I don’t think I have seen Cascade’s CCT Fibers before. They sound interesting. Is there a link or some pictures I could look at?

Chris,

Don't know yet. Just tied them up a few days ago. I will let you know. I'm working on a set for Atlantics too. I will post some when I get them done.

Charlie

P.S. Here are a few more I made up. Just adaptations of existing patterns.

flytyer
12-08-2004, 10:48 PM
Charlie,

Why not a new fly style tradition? In fact, I like the term "modern dee style" because they definitely have the proper look and they look just as good on long shank dee hooks even if tied with a spey feather on the front body.

speydoc
12-08-2004, 11:21 PM
Charlie
Very nice - I might try immitating these with rhea as the throat, if they look half decent I will post a photo.
speydoc

Igor
12-09-2004, 12:15 AM
As always Mr. 'D' - outstanding work in every way!

Igor

GPearson
12-09-2004, 10:10 AM
hi Charlie,

Very nice tubes!

How did you guys make out in the Nov. draw?

Greg

Charlie
12-09-2004, 11:54 AM
Greg,

How the hell are ya! We didn't do to well in the draw this year. Rick Kustich did the best. He got water on the York and Dartmouth. Brian got water on the York. And Nick Pionessa got water on the Dartmouth. Tony, Pat and I got nothing. How about you?

Charlie.

grouseman
12-10-2004, 08:56 AM
Will you be fishing those flies for steelhead during the cold Great Lakes winter? If so, what techniques? I've fished the indicator methods but bought a 2-handed rod and am learning new things. Those are beautiful flies... and I am learning to tie them, but will they catch fish?

GPearson
12-10-2004, 08:58 AM
We did pretty good on the York but nothing on the Dartmouth. I will pm you dates.

That GBSkunk is cool man. I am a -all things green butt- kinda guy for summer steelhead. I will have to tie up some of those babies.

Greg

Charlie
12-10-2004, 09:34 AM
Greg,

Glad you did well in the draw. We will be there from the 5th of June to about he 16th. And glad you like the tubes.

Grouseman,

I will be fishing these for winter steelhead. During January and February if you get a good day the fishing can be very good with swinging flies. You just need to slow down your swing and get down deep. I have had days in mid winter were I have out-fished the glo-buggers (is that a word?) by a large margin. Most of them will not even try swinging a fly at that time of year. They are so sure in there minds that it will not work.

Charlie.

grouseman
12-10-2004, 08:29 PM
Charlie, Slow and deep I assume means upstream and stack mending and various sink tips. Do you try and drag the bottom. My experience with the sink tips (none yet with the swinging fly technique) is they inevitably form bellies and speed up faster than the current. I'd imagine there are days, also, where the C and D boys will outfish the swingers... and it's those days I will try not to backslide.

richard7/8wt
12-11-2004, 02:00 PM
The tube flies discussion has motivated me to be a first time contributer.I have been experimenting with tube flies for Skagit River steelhead for three years. Traditional fly patterns have been important to me so the change to tube flies has been slow. The beauty and proportions of your patterns helps in this recard.
The pattern that works well for me is a modification of Dana's Thompson Tube. The TT is tied with a fine copper wire body and black saddle hackle at the rear and head. A short section of spun angora goat is place behind the forward hackle to help the fibers stay erect. The rear hackle has the shortest fibers and the head hackle the longest. Sorry, no photos! Very simple pattern. Instead of saddle hackle I use the long fibers of blue eared pheasant dyed black or Rhea feathers. Both approachs, when tied sparsely, make tube flies that have movment, a shrimp like profile in the water and are easy to cast. Many color combinations are fishy and I place the light/bright colors at the rear and the dark at the head.

You mentioned a "draw" for water in the Gaspe Rivers. Where does one find information about the draw?
Richard7/8wt

MJC
12-11-2004, 03:33 PM
Welcome to the forum!

Charlie
12-12-2004, 01:47 PM
grouseman,

You are correct for the most part. I like to use a 13' to 14' spey rod in the winter to help me counter the belly and keep my swings slow. You are also correct about the C and D boys getting a few more fish now and again but not as much as one might think. So keep the faith and give it your best shot, that’s all any of us can do. :cool:

richard7/8wt,

As MJC said, welcome to the site. For info on fishing the Gaspe Rivers check out this site. www.saumonquebec.com

It is a government-sponsored site that has info on all the public salmon fishing in Quebec.

Charlie