11-19-2004, 05:34 PM
Since it is going to be a long winter I thought reseaching a tube fly vice would be good. For those who use them what brand do you use and would you recommend it? Also are there attachments to regular vices that are recomended?
I do not want to spend the mortgage money just enough for a quality tool.
11-19-2004, 07:37 PM
To go tubular...
A rotary vise with the tube HMH adapter...
A close up of the HMH "conversion" device...(Don't waste your time and ca$h on cheap knock offs!!!)
A tube fly with the HMH device and the NorVise device...
Several 12" DualTubeHerringPhlyz from the PharSide (of the canal)...
I like the Renzetti Tube Vise and the NorVise just fine...
...But the HMH has my vote for the best tube holding mandrels and it can be used with any vise (that you probably already own)...
HMH has what you need to get started and to keep going. Great customer service!
11-20-2004, 01:19 PM
thanks for the info. I will check into the HMH product that is probably what I will need. Nice little gadget.
I have to second Penguin's comments about the HMH tube fly tool. I'd also like to highly recommend that you spend a few extra schekels get the premium mandrels.
If you want to go 'whole hog', get the HMH tube fly vise - it's a little jewel! Like all of HMH's products, it's extremely well-researched with the tyer in mind, very affordable, and manufactured to last a lifetime. IMO, the Renzetti tube fly vise was more of an afterthought - and like most Renzetti products insanely over- priced for what you truly get. Gee,...will they sue me for saying that? *g*
I can't offer a qualified opinion on the adapter for the NorVise. Granted, I've been a very satisfied NorVise owner/user for about three years, have most of their accesories (including the old tube fly attachment) but I have yet to try (or buy) the newer Norlander tube fly devise.
11-23-2004, 04:21 AM
Here is a newbie question regarding tube flies. What is the advantage of tying a tube fly ? Is it that you can tie a longer fly than if you tried to tie it the conventional way? When I think of tube flies I think of Salmon flies.
Aside from the advantages in other fisheries, in striper angling:
- Longer base to tie materials (longer fly)
- smaller lighter hooks can be used when desired since the hook is not the base
- better hook holding for length of fly (hook pivots loose, no long shank)
- hook position to rear if desired (albies, bonito)
- simple replacement of hook after sand or rock damage
- use of wire running thru fly to hide kinks (bluefish)
- ability to weight or unweight fly with tube core (brass, aluminum, plastic, etc)
- phenomenal for BIG SURF POPPERS and BIG SQUID!
- carry flies in your shirt pocket, hooks in a bag or small case.
I especiallly like them for big squid, albie flies and big surf bangers. The squids here are tied on metal (left) and tube (right). In either case, I used a tube - on the left the tube is tied to the shank to accomodate the materials, on the right the whole squid is tied to the tube and the hook is attached later to the tippet. Note the ability to tie proportionate squid because of the tube.
The bangers could be a lot bigger but these kick up the surface pretty good and can be cast well over 100ft on the two-hander without any fuss.
11-23-2004, 07:23 AM
On a negative note...Regarding BigBlue Chomp Chomp Pointy Teeth...
After the take, should the hook dislodge from the junction tube that holds it in place, the fly can slide up the leader...subsequent strikes may cut the line and byebye pheathers, phur, and phish...
To prevent the big slide, jam the end of a tooth pick into the front of the tube...thus keeping the hook seated in the junction tube.