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: Sage XP 908-4

Nathan Smith
02-11-2001, 12:22 AM
I just bought it for by bonefishing trip this spring. It is super fast but has a smooth flex pattern. For wading the flats it rocks. It is very accurate to. The only problem is that when you get over 50 feet out you feel the thin butt section but can get you to 50 ft in two false cast from the fly in you hand.

02-11-2001, 11:05 AM
Sounds like a good choice, it's that last sentence that made all the difference in my own adventures in warm climes.

Btw - what Nate points out is the same thing that counts on the Monomoy flats when the migration is done and it's a resident show. You can't see past that distance, and you need to get the fly ahead and down in the column before the fish sees the fly.

I've only cast the lighter weight XP's but talk about a rocket... the 4 and 5 weights cast like 7 or 8 weight rods. Great choice for stillwater or big western streams.

What often bugs me about a rod when aerializing long lines (as you say over 50 feet) is when the operative "heart" (again one of my obscure metaphors ) collapses under the load. Some rods that cast well with shorter lines feel like the recoil or "jump" coming off the rod lessens. At least for my casting style (results may vary) the butt starts and must supports the cast but the operative part of the rod blank is the part that is carried loaded up to the release point. Softening the upper section of that section makes some rods throw tight loops easier under relaxed casting conditions but if too "sweet" they can not handle the extra modulus needed to throw long lines. Once again this could all be my own casting stroke but for me that is the case.

Related note - the quick draw cast during sight fishing is also a function of what I call the "slipping and gripping" technique on both sides of the cast, in addition to the rod's action. The more expediently you can elongate the working length of line, the less false casting you need. I don't know if you will be able to get away with it but a slipping roll cast also gets the line out faster and might cut the false casts to one. This is the case with the two-handed overhand cast.

Hope you have a blast, take lots of pics!

Nathan Smith
02-11-2001, 11:53 PM
Good points. The XP is a very different rod then the RPLXI. The RPLXI has a progressive action where the tip is only moderately fast but the butt section is super stiff. With 20 feet of line out the rod is only loading 1/2 way down the blank. The XP is stiffer here and can shoot out more line then the RPLXI. With forty feet of line out thought this is the RPLXI's sweet spot and you can shoot that forth feet of line out. The XP has a thiner butt section and can only shoot say 25 feet of line. Basicly with one false cast I can cast the XP farther but with two false casts I can shoot the RPLXI farther. I casted the Horizon and it seems to be a progressive taper too but faster then the RPLXI

02-12-2001, 08:49 AM
Reading this makes me realize I haven't been casting enough rods lately...

There's got to be a hall we can rent for the winter cast-a-thon...