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DLoop
10-24-2004, 06:43 PM
Just started tying spey flies and would welcome your feedback. A green butt.

Smolt
10-25-2004, 12:15 AM
Looks very good to me. What kind of hackle did you use?

flytyer
10-25-2004, 01:15 AM
DLoop,

Very well proportioned and well-tied. You done good for your first spey fly.

I'm not sure if you tied in the mallard wing by tyng it down where the "grey" colored butt portion of the feather is found next to the stem or not by the picture you provided us. Bronze mallard should always be tied in at the grey feather root on spey flies in order to prevent the wing from splitting apart. The grey area next to the stem has the most adhesion between individual fibers and tying it in by the grey root keep the wing together and prevents splitting of the wing. Again, I'm not sure whether you tied the bronze mallard in by the "grey root" of the feather or not.

I would have tied in an underbody of silver tinsel underneath the tag floss so it doesn't lose its brilliance when it gets wet because I prefer to have a brilliant spot of color for a tag on spey flies. The head is a bit long; but, it will get shorter with practice. Here's a tip for producing a smaller head that is still very strong and durable: 1) tie in the wing with no more than three turns of thread (it is easier than it sounds); 2) trim the wing butts while holding on to the wing with the thumb and forefinger of your felt hand; 3) put a dot of flexible cement (I use Flexament) on the wing stubb; and 4) whip finish over the wing stubs to finish the fly.

Doing this will cause your heads to be much smaller and the flexible cement will bond the thread, hook, and wing together making for a very durable fly.

Charlie
10-25-2004, 10:13 AM
DLoop,

Good looking fly! :smokin:

Charlie.

mattzoid
10-25-2004, 11:44 AM
I'd fish the hell out of that fly.

Philster
10-25-2004, 12:45 PM
Gorgeous! Now you just have to get over how cool it is and tie it on and fish it!

DLoop
10-25-2004, 04:38 PM
Thanks folks. This feedback is all very motivating. I'll have to keep at it.

Smolt, the body hackle is blue-ear pheasant.

Flytyer, thanks for your pointers. I have only fished these a little but I was a bit concerned about the durability of the bronze mallard. It appeared to separate very quickly. Do folks 'Flexament' more than just the wing stub to get them to be more stable, or are they supposed to separate when fished?

flytyer
10-25-2004, 05:27 PM
DLoop,

That is the reason for tying the bronze mallard in by the grey roots (which are found right next to the feather stem). Tying the feather in by the grey roots keeps the feather from splitting, which is why I mentioned it in my previous post.

To answer your question about using Flexament, the answer is not. The only part that is glued is the wing stub.

DLoop
10-25-2004, 05:57 PM
Ok. I'll give that a try. thanks.

Anadromous
10-25-2004, 06:39 PM
In many cases, when I fish my spey patterns, the wings end up seperating any way.