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: proportions on a wally waker

robert cochrane
09-21-2004, 09:57 PM
Can someone please give me an idea of the proprtional measurements one should be striving for on a #6 salmon hook (width height from shank)?

robert cochrane
09-21-2004, 09:57 PM
Sorry. Waller Waker

09-22-2004, 08:16 AM

If you do a search on Waller Waker, Flytyer has a picture of one and a good writeup on the fly on this BB.


09-23-2004, 03:38 PM
then I would urge you consider a more slender body than you see in the commercially tied versions in many of the fly catalogues...personally, I want the hook gap not to be negatively impacted by a clipped deer body that reduces the gap in the hook becasue it is "fat" can clip more deer hair off the bottom of your flies to acheive this...also, I have found the slender bodied wakers of clipped deer hair not only hook andthus catch more fish but they seem to attract more strikes than the fat bodied ones...2 cents

robert cochrane
09-23-2004, 06:33 PM
Thanks to all. The advice on slim profile is greatly appreciated - never thought of that.

09-23-2004, 08:25 PM

I agree wholeheartedly with you regarding the commonly available Wally Wakers (that are almost all tied in Scri Lanka and imported by a very well known company from Oregon) being too bulkly. If you look at the how to tie a Wally Waker instructions I included with the picture of the Wally Waker Charlie referred to, you will see that I tie mine (and advocate others tie theirs) by keeping all the body hair on tip of the hook shank with no body hair at all on the bottom of the shank. This preserves the whole hook gape and prevents any hook gape intrusion whatsoever. I also advocate tying the wings on at the end of the hook return so there is room to put a riffle hitch on the fly that doesn't mash the moose hair throat "skid".

When a Wally Waker is tied with no hair allowed to spin (as my tying instructions explain), not only is there not hair below the hook shank whatsoever, the fly can be tied all the way down to a #12 if you so desire. In fact, for you trout fly tyers, a Rat Faced McDougal or Goddard Caddis tied this way to keep the body hair from spinning results in a fly that floats just as well as a spun body one and it hooks fish better.