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: Late weekend report

08-18-2004, 02:18 PM
Saturday we put in at Barn Hill where we saw Craig at o'dark thirty. We
were a little concerned that conditions would be unfishable with the impending
storm but the seas and wind actually laid down as the day progressed. We
were into fish right off the bat in about 20' of water. A few legals landed
and a big girl missed because I bent out a TMC 811 by overcranking the drag.

Guess I needed a little more coffee. Duuuuh! :rolleyes:

The good news is last week's bluefish had moved out of the shallows to some
degree and we didn't have to worry about the constant bite offs. A brief
flurry of surface activity yeilded a legal bass that crashed a banger right
at the boat with a major slurp.

Found bluefish on Bearses but it died with slack tide. Ran around the tip of
South Monomoy in search of Bonito but no dice. With the bright sunshine it
turned out to be quite a pleasant day on the water.

Craig we saw you coming back from S/M. Were you in search of hardtails?

08-18-2004, 02:44 PM
Still slaying them outside I see. Kewl.

BTW - the 811s jumps up wire size as you go up. With the size of the maws on those pigs you are catching you could afford to go up in gauge IMHO. For that matter, with no consideration for how the fly splashes and rights itself on shallow sandy flats (where the 811s excels in my opinion) you could use a whole different hook design and I am sure it would make zero difference to the fish.

Might make the bluefish losses less painful too :)

08-18-2004, 03:00 PM
Juro agree w/you 100% about the 811s. Unfortunately my flybox jumped ship
last week so I had to dip into the flats hooks for last minute tying :roll:

I have been using primarily Daiichi X-points this season which are a much better hook for the job because they are heavy wire, have a nice finish and penetrate like hell even with a long line out (stretch). The downside to these is after a few fish the point tends to get kinked and getting it back to normal requires some delicate use of the pliers and file - not always easy to do on the boat.

I find that the 811 is still quite good for the job because it is razor sharp out of the box and the thin wire penetrates bony jaws. They also have durable points...always a staple in my fly tying kit!

08-18-2004, 03:17 PM
Not exactly cheep but the 600SPs are one heck of a hook. Razor sharp after many fish and I don't think you'll ever bend one open.


08-18-2004, 03:36 PM
Sean thanks for the suggestion...those look good. Do they make a longer
shank model for a certain unique hair eel pattern? :lildevl:

Not worried about the's too short to fish cheap hooks :smokin:

08-18-2004, 04:04 PM
Sean thanks for the suggestion...those look good. Do they make a longer
shank model for a certain unique hair eel pattern? :lildevl:

Not worried about the's too short to fish cheap hooks :smokin:


You bring up a good point there. I don't think they do. I have always used them for slammers and other big baitfish patterns. I also just checked umpquas site and it looks like they discontinued making the 800S in larger sizes as I think that would have been a good option as well. Maybe the Mustad Signature series. Back to the drawing board I guess.


08-18-2004, 04:33 PM
I use Mustad's Signatures and my catch rate went way up. I also like the Tiemco and don't use them that often because of cost. FishHawk :D

08-18-2004, 09:11 PM
I have found that Gamigatsu (sp?) make a very nice hook. I believe it is the SL series that has the similar shank layout to the 811S. Nice strong hook.

08-19-2004, 08:39 AM
Those Gamis look good too. Hard to come by at my local fly shops but it's
probably worth mail ordering a box to stock up for the winter.

08-20-2004, 08:39 AM
I was coming back from the S/M rip, trying to see if there was any fish out there. We got just blues out of it so headed back. I mostly fish out in front of South Beach. We hit them good early in the morning and as usual it slowed down and that is when we went to check out the rip.

Will we be seeing each other again at o'dark thirty :wink: ?

Good luck this weekend!