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: yet another sandeel

08-05-2004, 09:22 PM
Reading through the forum reminded me that you have an abundance of sandeels during the summer months. Most of ours are off shore here in New Jersey and if they show up on the beach in any quantity, itís during spring or winter. Hereís one I developed a couple years ago I call the dowel stick sand eel. Itís fishair and angel hair tied over a piece of dowel stick sharpened in a pencil sharpener then given a light coat of epoxy.

This morning I modified it to stand by tying it on a size 2 ec413 jig hook, adding brass eyes on the 60 degree portion of the hook and adding mono legs to stabilize it. Thought you might have some use for it in fishing the flats.

The mono legs are optional and are tied on after the fly is complete.


08-05-2004, 10:15 PM
Your tyin' is a tour d' FORCE!
I REALLY appreciate your posts...
Thank You BIG!
Just the incentive I needed to dust off Mr DK Baracuda...

08-06-2004, 06:29 AM
Nice Steve. Thanks for posting your work here.

Do you find the epoxy keeps the angel hair from fouling? I have been using
softex to reduce fouling with similar unique-hair patterns and it works well.
Wondering if angel hair behaves the same way? Have only used the stuff
on bunker-style patterns.

The dumbells must give a nice burrowing effect when the fly is stripped in
shallow water...will have to try this.


08-06-2004, 06:32 AM
Very creative!

I use this same physical design with furry red/olive stripe foam strips to imitate a burrowing clam worm and the fly has been very successful on the flats... but the furry foam is not durable and one schoolie leaves you with a stub fly, almost like the real worm after a bite :hihi:

Back to the drawing board. :)

08-06-2004, 07:00 AM
Great design and a great way to create the appearance of burrowing; I imagine it gets the fish that spot it to become that much more excited!

08-06-2004, 07:10 AM
Great idea , saw something similar on the Rip Ryder a couple of weeks ago. Will try this type of fly on the flats. Again thanks Steve. FishHawk

08-06-2004, 07:15 AM will have to stand on your head to cast those :D

08-06-2004, 07:55 AM
Not a problem. That's my secret of catching fish. :lildevl:
FishHawk :smokin:

08-06-2004, 08:38 AM morfed into an interesting crab...
The tying wheels are turning...
...the sharpened boyant dowel concept is quite curious... :confused:

08-06-2004, 08:31 PM
Hi Pete, hope you can put the idea to good use. I still remember those sleek tube herring flies you showed up with at the SWE tying day Ė very nice indeed. Thanks much for the welcome.

Dave, the epoxy only covers the head and does not do much to control the fouling. What does control it is that there is no material tied under the shank, itís all on the sides and top so you get the same effect as a bendback or jiggy(some resistance to fouling). You still need to watch the length so I limit them to 5 Ė6 inches.

Juro, Iíd like to see it if you can link me to it. Iíve never fished the flats for stripers other than the ocean front flats at Island Beach State Park. I would like to learn more about whatís effective up your way.

Chris, Iíd like to believe it whips them into a frenzy but the truth is Iíve never fished this version. Iím just happy it stands with the mono legs and believe it will work well around slack but lack control in any current. Weíll have to see and that's the part I enjoy.

Pete Ö. Canít wait to see the morfed crab version!!!!


08-07-2004, 11:01 AM
Steve...I like your burrowing sand eel pattern, esp. that it looks like it will stand strait up. I've just completed some experimental burrowing crabs. Not my original idea, it's Striblue's. Basically I tied his crabapple with a modification of body material. I bought some 3/4 inch vinyl tubing at a hardware store, cut it in the same general shape but the back of the body(clear in color) extends outwards in a sort of rounded triangular fashion about 1/4 to 1/2 tying a bump of thread 1/8 inch from the eye, it pushes the rear vinyl extension downward at a 45 degree angle....hopefully it will work :-) If not....was still better than watching TV!
Hope to try it out on Tuesday. What's nice about the vinyl is that it sinks on it's own. I can hear the stripers laughing now :-)