07-06-2004, 11:52 AM
I have been looking into getting a fly rig good for bass (bigmouth & smallies)
but also good for steelhead. Any suggestions for a good rig that is under $250?
I have been looking at the St. Croix Premire combo.
Bass require a lot of lifting power as they are pretty heavy and sluggish on a fly rod. The drag is not all that important as they do not really run fast or far.
Steelhead however are giant trout on steriods and require a top notch drag system. Lifting power is not as important but in currents these big fish will need a little muscle to move.
I have a hard time believing a $250 rod can handle this duty, particularly the steelhead reel. In any case I would go for an 8wt unless the fish are smaller, go with a 7wt.
I would have to go with our sponsor Temple Fork Outfitters and use the money you save on a reel with a very good drag for the steelhead.
Good luck with your decision.
07-06-2004, 12:28 PM
Thanks for the tip, I have looked into the Temple Fork 8 wts, but I cannot find them except in catalogs. I have also looked at the Pflueger Trion reel, which I hear has a great drag system. Thanks again.
07-06-2004, 03:36 PM
Although a good drag is nice for steelhead, it is not necessary. I caught quite a few steelhead in years past with an old Martin 67 reel (which is no longer made and that was priced at the whopping retail price of $16.00 when I bought it back in the 1970's). This reel was made of stamped aluminum, held together with screws, a double-pawl drag, and did not have an exposed spool rim for palming. When I fished with the Martin 67, I never felt the reel couldn't handle the steelhead, including some large wild winter run fish.
Also, I used the same 9' 8wt rod, WF8 lines, and Martin 67 reel for large and smallmouth bass.
That said, I agree with wholeheartedly with Juro on the Temple Fork rods. They are much nicer casting than the lower priced St.Croix rods. Also, I agree that a good drag is the best way to go, even if it is not necessary.
07-06-2004, 03:55 PM
Although I'm a big St. Croix fan, I've recently purchased a TFO 10 weight for the salt and am thoroughly impressed with the value of the rod. If their lighter rod weights are comparable, then you could definitely do worse. Always try before you buy, if possible.
I also agree that the 8 weight is suitable for the species that you've indicated. Heavy enough to throw some bass bugs and such, and enough backbone to fight the fish.
07-08-2004, 07:18 AM
I would recommend checking out the TFO Lefty Kreh Series 1 rod in 8-weight which sells for $ 99.95. Contact TFO direct for the info on the dealer nearest you: 800-638-9052. TFO have an un-conditional money-back guarantee; if you buy it and don't like it, they will take it back and get you a refund.
This should leave you enough cash to buy a venerable old-standby, the SciAnglers System II reel. This reel holds plenty of backing, and has plenty of drag for any fish you might catch on an 8-weight.
The two applications you mention are best supported with very different fly lines. Unless you are willing to buy two fly lines, I would recommend getting a standard WFF line rather than a specialty taper like a Steelehead or Bassbug taper. Get the best quality line you can afford, like Rio or SA.
Good luck and have fun!
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