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: Mini DNA Flats Sand Eels


striblue
06-22-2004, 09:55 PM
Looking forward to trying these out... I will tye up 10 more . These are on small Varivas hooks(no flash hooks), for the Monomoy flats. The bottom two are subtle colors of chartreuse and olive on top, the top are two shades of brown, very fine colors of this new DNA material, Only four thin strips of flash inside over a thin clump of pink. Each is about 3 inches long with a exsmall silver dumbell eye.

CascoBay
06-22-2004, 10:01 PM
John,
That's a great looking pattern. Have you found the DNA material to be pretty good? I haven't invested in any as of yet, but there seems to be some rumblings that is has great action. What has your experience been with it?

juro
06-22-2004, 10:21 PM
I am afraid the age of the eel is dwindling... so many people are using elongated synthetic sand eel patterns with weighted eyes nowadays that they are much more prone to reject them than in years past. We are talking big fish in the 15 yr class, residents of Monomoy.

I remember days when I could vaccuum the flats with a deep eel back when they were not really publicized. Now a lot more fish are saying "been there done that".

Maybe DNA is the material change that can crack the code, I bought a bunch this winter and have not yet started to tie with it but I am not far behind you striblue.

On the flight from Exuma this winter I designed several new flies for flats fishing for stripers based on influences from my 8th trip to bonefish country. After fishing with Alan Caolo (report to follow) recently it dawned on me that it's time to put these new patterns to the vise. His imitator/stimulator patterns brought out an aggressive reponse in the fish who had probably never seen his "stuff" before. Despite days when they will eat the deep eel out of my hand, I had a couple of near misses that really broke my heart.

Of course to make up for it I followed up the day on the flats with some outgoing action at the lighthouse where they tore up the deep eel without so much as a second thought when it was swung by. But on the flats I am thinking it's time to break out the "secret sauce".

John, you'd better put a sign on the glass fly cases at CAC - "in case of emergency break glass" :D

striblue
06-22-2004, 11:20 PM
I have not used this stuff before...so we shall see...but I agree with you Juro...I have my own stuff for Monomoy as well and they are not eels...but I will give this a go...and not really just at Monomoy but anywhere where small eels may be lurking around... I am glad you finally met up with Allan...I will be interested to hear how it went.

Slinger
06-23-2004, 12:24 AM
John,
Your gonna love that stuff in the water, it moves so nice! I showed you some of the small streamers I tied with it and I can say the fish seem to like them just fine. Mixed with a little Midge Flash it makes some great looking stuff. Just a word to those who haven`t tied with it yet, there are two differant finishes available the Frosted finish has a luster to it that I really like, the Powder finish is dull and flat with no shine.
Slinger

FredA
06-23-2004, 06:32 AM
I bought an assortment of the powder colors and some pinkish DNA flash material thats cool to look at. I've only tied and tried one clouser/deep eelish fly on a small (#2?) LC413 hook. I'll be trying some more the next couple of weeks. Unfortunately, I've been catching the type of fish that will eat anything you through in front of them (sub keeper) so I have no qualitative feel for the effectiveness of the stuff. At this point I just don't think the fly matters (other than in general terms such as weighted hook up, suspended hook down)so much as figuring out how to trigger a respone when the fish are less than actively feeding. I'm kinda liking bucktail lately.

BigDave
06-23-2004, 07:51 AM
I have been using DNA this season thanks to a few flies donated by a friend. The best thing about the stuff is it's very foul resistant which can be a problem on superhair eel patterns. A friend hit 2 fish over 35" on a pattern almost identical to striblue's at nauset on Sunday.

striblue
06-23-2004, 09:10 AM
I tied a bunch up last night BUT I used mono thread which gave me a better head and body consistancy.

ashbourn
06-23-2004, 03:18 PM
I have been looking for DNA and I can't find it. Anywhere online I can get it. It works great for spinner wings.

striblue
06-23-2004, 03:36 PM
I will look this evening on the package, but I bought mine at one of this winter's fly shows.

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06-23-2004, 03:44 PM
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CascoBay
06-25-2004, 11:01 PM
I tied up a bunch of smaller jeuvy DNA sand eels last night and fished them this morning. I would agree with Big Dave that the DNA doesn't get as tangled around the hook and holds truer..... Be curious to hear if they are the new assassins on the flats.

Aaron

Roop
06-29-2004, 08:05 AM
A buddy was using a few DNA patterns he tied last Friday - this stuff has beautiful color & action.

Roop

CascoBay
07-03-2004, 06:06 PM
I tied up a bunch of smaller jeuvy DNA sand eels last night and fished them this morning. I would agree with Big Dave that the DNA doesn't get as tangled around the hook and holds truer..... Be curious to hear if they are the new assassins on the flats.

Aaron


I fished the little DNA sandeel on a rip up on Popham beach with some stiff current yesterda y and was kicking myself for not having used epoxy on any of the DNA eels. Between the stiff current and even stiffer head wind, the material turned out to be a fouling nightmare! I have since epoxied up a bunch and it appears the this stuff is light enought weight where the epoxy won;t killed the action of the fly! We'll see. ... Regardless, on the casts where the fly was somewhat in tact, the pattern proved to be appealing to the flats feeding fish.
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