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: Sardine/rainbait

05-11-2004, 07:25 PM
Size 1 C70SD, dubbed pearl angel hair belly, olive angel hair over pearl angel hair...

05-11-2004, 07:27 PM
... and another incorporating purple live glow and peacock herl...

05-11-2004, 07:30 PM
... and one more with chartreuse fishair back...

05-12-2004, 12:02 AM
Very nice ties! I like them a lot. Could you explane " dubbed angel hair body"?

05-12-2004, 06:27 AM
Sure; it's something I watched Jack Gartside do at a tying show last November. Basically you form a dubbing loop and apply the angel hair as you would normal dubbing. The other thing you do is use head cement liberally around the head and eyes of the fly, which solidifies (more like fuses) the angel hair together into a neat and durable head.

05-12-2004, 06:54 AM
Nice patterns. FishHawk:D

05-12-2004, 09:02 AM
Nice ties. The one with the peacock is excellent.

Are you putting a little softex on the angel hair to help it
keep it's shape or just going "straight up"?

05-12-2004, 09:08 AM
I haven't used softex, rather, the head cement can be applied very sparingly along part of the body if tangling or fouling is an issue. Basically I dip the bodkin deep in the cement, let almost all of it run off, then run the bodkin along the fly from head to the back of the hook once on each side. The less cement used, the better the action remains.

I thought about putting a rattle in at the belly, however I didn't have any small enough to keep the gap from closing too much.

05-13-2004, 01:43 PM
I assume that the rainbait imitation imitates the rainbait in shape and size...not as tall in profile as many baitfish flies (bunker, I guess) and not as slender as others (sand eel?) Does anybody have a pic of Mr. Rainbait?
Also, is the dubbed body/head the same as simply wrapping the shank of the hook in flashabou or holograph? I've had no trout tying experience so the whole dubbing thing doesn't work for me.


05-13-2004, 02:42 PM
Rainbait, in this case, would be a pattern emulating sardines, silversides, and bay anchovies, though the overall proportions of the fly would work just as well to imitate killifish and similarly-shaped "minnows". The process of dubbing actually builds up a silhouette of the opaque belly that some of these forage fish have, and in that regard it's not the same effect that would be achieved by simply wrapping foil around the shank. Dubbing Lite Brite is easy; wet your fingers, apply sparse material to the hanging thread and twist it to the thread in one direction only, then wrap this up the shank towards the eye.

05-13-2004, 07:59 PM
Have you considered puting bucktail under the angel hair, to keep the fly from becoming a very thin one,while retaining the action ? I need to try that! This fly has tremendous potential as a great freshwater bait fish imitation as well. Good tie!

05-13-2004, 10:56 PM
I think that were I to put bucktail underneath the flash, it would indeed give the pattern a little more bulk and would probably also go a long way towards preventing excessive fouling without the addition of the cement; a good "test pattern" might be combining light blue, light yellow, light pink, and light purple beneath pearl or silver angel hair for the multi-color affect it would create. In a sense, you could tie a full-bodied streamer and give it a loose veil of angel hair and have some fishy-looking patterns.