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: Light tackle fly fishing???


odin909
03-15-2004, 08:41 PM
I was wondering. I have a 8 and a half foot , 6 weight rod and line , can i fish with this off the beach on the long island sound??

I have read some places that i can. If so, what problems will i run into with such light tackle?
Also, what are the max size flies i can use?

I would appreciate any answers.

flyfisha1
03-15-2004, 09:21 PM
If you're planning on fishing for searun cutthroats, an 8.5' 6-wt. would work, however for stripers, large blues, albies, and anything else over a few pounds, four words: I wouldn't try it. A large fish could easily spool you, the extended time fighting the fish (vs. using a proper "heavy" rod) will cause fatigue that may prove fatal (to the fish, not you), and the range of fly sizes you can toss effectively is quite small. I've fished for snapper blues and schoolie stripers in protected estuaries with my 9' 6-wt. and done quite well with poppers, surf candies, and other patterns on size 1 and 2 hooks, but I draw the line with my 6-wt. there. Anything larger (in terms of the size of the fish targeted) and I go to an 8-wt. at the very least, and for the LI sound I wouldn't head out with anything smaller than a 9, preferably a 10-wt.

davidstrout
03-15-2004, 10:25 PM
there is a smallish (2 acre) tidal pond near urban stamford that recieves a massive influx of peanut bunker during august...on top of tide stripers move in to feed and blitz conditions are a nightly occcurence....as the flies used are less than 4 inches and due to the protected nature of this locale (only a strong straight on south wind blows it out) I often fish for these bass with a 10' six weight....fish to 7 pounds or so are great fun....when the larger class of schoolies (8# plus) are around I make sure to fish a 25Lb leader (6-8 feet straight mono) so as I can put the wood to these fish and play them for a short amount of time....
summary:-6 weights can be great fun for stripers (avoid the albies period and blues over 5 lbs as you will kill them) as long as the wind is not an issue, the size of the fish is in the schoolie class and the needed fly patterns are on the small/lightweight side-(20 inch flatwings can be thrown on an uplined 4 weight if you really wanted to)

Good luck and go buy a cheap 9 or ten weight for the Li sound as wind is almost always an issue and sometimes you want to throw a heavy sinking line and grocery style flies to boot......or........get obsessed with using a two hander......

david

FishHawk
03-16-2004, 07:00 AM
Something to think about with light rods for any game fish. You will have to play the fish longer with the lighter rod which could possibly tire out the fish and its chances for survival diminished. I have seen anglers on some famous trout streams use 3 wt rods and play trout for close to an hour and then stress the fish . Don't want to throw cold water on your choice. Just my .02
FishHawk:D

Eddie
03-16-2004, 08:05 AM
If you can't afford a heavier package, I think that you should fish whatever you've got. Schoolies should be not be much of problem on that rig. A big fish would require some skill to bring in quickly, but good anglers quickly land large fish on relatively light tackle all the time. Don't fight the fish off the tip of the rod, and you should be ok. You will learn alot...like you need a heavier rod.
Problems you will run into: you will not be able to fish many of the most effective flies. You will be shut out if it gets windy. Your reel is probably going to need alot of TLC because it is probably a fresh water reel. You will not be able to cast the faster sinking lines.
I recomend that you fish small bucktails and flat wings(up to a few inches). They are easy to cast. For that rig, I would stay away from lead eyes and epoxy type flys. They might be too heavy for that rig. Good luck.

odin909
03-16-2004, 09:14 AM
Thanks for all your replies. I appreciate all the info.


I am slowly trying to put together a salt setup. And i am glad to find out i can still fish by my hous until then.

If you guys have any ideas about a cheap salt setup i would appreciate all the info.

thanks again guys

flyfisha1
03-16-2004, 09:26 AM
Originally posted by odin909
If you guys have any ideas about a cheap salt setup i would appreciate all the info.

Now you've gone and opened the can! I think that for the money you'd be hard-pressed to find a better rod than a Temple Fork Outfitters (TFO) TiCr; they're very reasonable, with a price tag under $250. As for a reel, Tetons make good, affordable large arbor models ($150). I think that a 10-wt. rod/reel combo would run somewhere in the realm of $380; add your choice of line. That particular combo would probably provide you a lifetime of good performance.

Eddie
03-16-2004, 11:55 AM
what's your all up budget?